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Disco Inferno on American Dragon

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Ultimo Tiger

Posted: Jul 23 2008, 06:38 PM

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"i read a few weeks ago on one of the sites that the "best wrestler in the business" had a dark match with the wwe. so i rohvideos.comd this guy and checked him out. no offense to him, but i didn't think he was the "best wrestler in the business" from what i saw. he was decent for the style that he worked, but unfortunately that style caters to a very small niche audience. here's a few of the problems.

most people watch professional wrestling because it's professional wrestling. i would profess that there is zero chance that you're going to draw from the mma crowd by doing fake mma. i think most mma fans would be more entertained by the disco inferno vs. the honkytonk man, because at least they know they're watching a pro wrestling match and not some hybrid ridiculous let's do the mma moves and pretend that the moves hurt and insult my intelligence style. wrestling fans pop more for mr. socko and the people's elbow than they would for a fake guillotine choke hold.

the guy needs a gimmick. i'm sorry, but you can't sell a plain joe to fans that want sports entertainment.

also, for as good as everyone says this guy is, tna has at least ten guys better. evrybody puts over these roh matches like they're the greatest thing ever, but if you put aj and christian cage against the motor city machine guns for 25 minutes, and told them that you needed at least four stars, i'd bet my life that it would be better than anything roh has ever put out. once guys like aj and the mcmg's got out of roh, look how much better they got. there's something to say about the art of selling, which isn't really being taught to the up 'n comers. it makes matches so much more dramatic. it's what causes the fans to suspend the disbelief to a higher level, because now they become emotionally involved subconsciously when a wrestler can convey suffering and despair to them. i really should open a school someday and teach people how to work. i actually managed to make a pretty good name for myself by dancing around like some schmuck pretending to be john travolta for the past fifteen years. i think i know what i'm doing."

Ummmm...........Has he snorted some coke recently?

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Jingus

Posted: Sep 18 2008, 02:02 PM

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Sorry to bump an old thread, but somehow this is the first time I've seen this hilarious little essay. And really, who could ever get tired of laughing at this. The laughable opinions are one thing, but the downright factual errors are amazing.

A few of my favorite points:

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unfortunately that style caters to a very small niche audience

Doesn't ROH out-draw TNA in terms of live gates most of the time? And I'm dead certain that NOAH does.

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most people watch professional wrestling because it's professional wrestling. i would profess that there is zero chance that you're going to draw from the mma crowd by doing fake mma.

Firstly, why the hell would they be trying to garner MMA fans? The companies which employ Danielson typically appeal to pro wrestling fans who have been turned off by the WWE/TNA parody of a parody which Sports Entertainment embodies. Secondly, how the hell would you describe Danielson's definitively style, which is basically just an updated version of old carny technical wrestling, as "fake mma"? Kurt Angle's matches these days much more easily fit that definition. You know, the main eventer at the company where Disco works as an agent.

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i think most mma fans would be more entertained by the disco inferno vs. the honkytonk man,

Wow. When criticizing another worker, his measuring stick for Good Wrestling is... himself?! Whoa. Dude. If I carefully tried to remember every single Disco Inferno match I saw which legit entertained me, I could probably count them all on my hands. Which is especially sad considering the number of WCW shows I saw with his forgettable ass on them.

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some hybrid ridiculous let's do the mma moves and pretend that the moves hurt and insult my intelligence style.

...the hell is that even supposed to mean? "pretend that the moves hurt"? Uh, last time I checked, that was called "selling" and is typically considered a good thing.

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the guy needs a gimmick. i'm sorry, but you can't sell a plain joe to fans that want sports entertainment.

That IS his gimmick. Granted, it's not a very flashy or complicated one. But for that matter, neither was Stone Cold. Sure he eventually migrated to driving strange vehicles and WHAT and such, but he originally got over just cuz he was a crazy drunken redneck who beat up a lot of people.

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but if you put aj and christian cage against the motor city machine guns for 25 minutes, and told them that you needed at least four stars, i'd bet my life that it would be better than anything roh has ever put out.

Problems inherent in this statement:

1.When has ANY Motorcitymachineguns match EVER gone anywhere NEAR 25 minutes in TNA? Which, I must say again, is a company which the Disco Infernor works for in a creative capacity.
2. He couldn't have picked anyone who hasn't wrestled for ROH at some point in his hypothetical example about why ROH wrestlers suck?

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once guys like aj and the mcmg's got out of roh, look how much better they got.

Uh, except that AJ and Sabin were in TNA before and more often than they were in ROH. And you'd argue that Alex Shelley's forgettable jobber work in MCMGs is better than everything he did with Generation Next?

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there's something to say about the art of selling, which isn't really being taught to the up 'n comers. it makes matches so much more dramatic. it's what causes the fans to suspend the disbelief to a higher level, because now they become emotionally involved subconsciously when a wrestler can convey suffering and despair to them. i really should open a school someday and teach people how to work. i actually managed to make a pretty good name for myself by dancing around like some schmuck pretending to be john travolta for the past fifteen years. i think i know what i'm doing.

Nice to know that dancing around like some schmuck and pretending to be John Travotla for fifteen years somehow qualifies you to "make matches so much more dramatic", "suspend the disbelief to a higher level", and "convey suffering and despair". Although that last statement would perfectly convey my feelings any time I had to watch a Glen Gilberti segment at all those TNA shows I went to.

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