tomk - September 24, 2010 09:48 PM (GMT)
So I haven't had access to internet for over a month and so only lucha I've been able to watch is AAA.
Heavy Metal---week in and week ouyt he is the most watchable guy on AAA TV. AAA is all about match after match as meaningless listless brawl. Pretty much worked like Steiners v Nasty if the Scott v Saggs exchanges were replaced by Jerry Lynn v Chris Daniels exchanges. Unless Heavy Metal is in these matches they are just fucking chores to sit through.
Metal brings focus to AAA matches. Maybe its the lack of Konnan and co NWO overbooking that plaues the rest of card...but it's not like the Electroshock v Heavy Metal feud isn't overbooked.
What Heavy does is pretty simple (and on some level what I was writing about when I said that FIP shouldn't be the word we use in lucha). Spends half of the match standing there bravely eating a unanswered beating, then he gets a comeback and delivers a beating. That may not seem like much but no one else in AAA seems to be able to pull that shit off.
It should be said that Electroshock is completely unobjectionable in these matches. And I guess if you watched nothing but AAA I wouldn't call you crazy for having him on your list.
Chris Stone really looks like Bello Greco
So my memory of the story on ultimo Gladiador is that he was one of the early IWRG semi main guys and then got hooked up with Crazzy Boy/Joe Lider garbage workers and then from there went to AAA. And that's kind of how he wrestles, like a guy who is well trained and has a bunch of stuff there who ran with the wrong gang and got caught up in some bad habits that if he could unlearn...
Ruggles - September 24, 2010 11:48 PM (GMT)
What do you think of LA Park? I don't have cable, so any AAA I watch I have to seek out, and seeking out AAA seems like some sort of call for help. Like, I can easily see the Division of Child Services making a note of that and using it in some future legal setting. So, most of the matches I've watched have been the Park matches, and I've enjoyed them a lot. I agree on Heavy Metal and Electroshock, too. What I've seen of Electroshock for the past few years has been not terrible, but I wouldn't (and don't) go out of my way to watch his matches. I also still enjoy Dr. Wagner's shtick, but probably more his out of wring activity than his in-ring activity.
Phil Schneider - September 25, 2010 12:20 AM (GMT)
LA Park is definitely going to make my list somewhere, he is often the only watchable dude in the main event brawls, and can do entertaining things with guys who really stink.
Tim Evans - September 25, 2010 01:09 AM (GMT)
I still like Zorro a lot but he hasn't really gotten a chance to shine this year. Some of his brawls in ACM were fun. Silver Kain is also good.
Ruggles - September 25, 2010 01:26 AM (GMT)
Also in LA Park's favor: as predictable and routine as the PDM main events always are, I still enjoy them far more than nearly any CMLL main event I've watched in the past 2 years or so.
I forgot about Zorro, and almost feel like I should seek out some matches with him. Almost.
tomk - September 27, 2010 12:02 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Ruggles @ Sep 24 2010, 11:48 PM)|
| What do you think of LA Park? . |
I didn't mention LA Pak because he already has his own thread (as I assume Dr Wagner and Silver Cain do)...I was starting thread for AAA guys who don't have own thread.
From today's show:
La Park wasn't in the clusterfuck main event. which makes you realize without him, Perro is the next guy in line of guys who can have watchable sequences in those things.
Of the guys mentioned before:
Chris Stone is far and away the best rudo in the Airforce (Aerostar, Laredo Kid, Super Fly) v Militia (Stone, Decnis, Tiger Cota) match. Heads and shoulders better than anyone else in the ring. Tiger Cota looked a step above Decnis too. but I can't imagine anyone in this match other than Stone making anyone's 100.
Heavy Metal and Elctroshock are tossed into a 187 v Halloween/Damian match. Part of what made the Electroshock v Metal series work is that they were all about selling the weapons shots...weapons shots lead directly to major match transitons or finishes. and well those two kind of continue to do that here while they are surrounded by a CZW clusterfuck of no selling garbage wrestling. Poor poor Nicho, it is so sad watching him currently working liking a poor man's Discount Dewey Donovan managing a poor man's Justice Pain. as most of what Nicho does is set up plunder for other people's shit. Halloween...for a yoked guy with an awesome f5...well part of me thinks this is what would have happened if Brock staid in wrestling and Paul heyman continued to manage him. I enjoyed Metal and Shock here as they stuck with each other and stuck to working ther wrestling with selling. Post match was Konan and that may put an end to anything watchable.
Watch the minis match and skip all the matches I've written about.
Tim Evans - September 27, 2010 05:18 AM (GMT)
Aerostar will make it on my list just for his Monterrey matches alone. And the great CVE/Kozlov vs Fabi/Aerostar match.
What do you think of Octagon and Pimpi? Pimpi had some good matches this summer but seems to have fallen off a little bit. Same with Octagon although he should be good in the next couple weeks.
tomk - October 7, 2010 06:36 PM (GMT)
I am continuing to watch AAA. fuck if I know why.
Mini abismo v Mini Octagon for the belt goes under five minutes.Some quick arm drag exchanges into big dive which is no sold so theopponent can hit a big dive, some heel second interference that leads to heel miscomunication spot and then roll ups. Really a nothing match that was super dissapointing after last weeks midget trio.
Tigre Cota /Dencis v Extreme Tiger/Relampago was about 7 minute dull spot fest. I mean my eyes kept on closing so I had have to rewind and then there would be nothing worth seeing. You know something is a meaningless spot fest when you're unsure if it was clipped or not. Was I just watching highlights? I thought the Militia team of Chris Stone/Tigre Cota/Dencis looked pretty polished laast week. Without Chris Stone they did not look polished. Tigre Cota looked like a guy who maybe was as good as he was last week but just stuck with shitty opponents. Dencis may be wrestling Zelig as he will always look like the least guy in the ring to make everyone else feel comfortable and at ease with their own skills. Nobody here looked like they belonged anywhere near a top 200.
Laredo Kid/Intocable/ Pimpi v Stones/Koslov-this went about 12 minutes broked up with commercials, and you got the real sense that this was match with captains (Pimpi and Koslov). this was match built around lots of heels mugging and Koslov was the heel who was best at mugging for Pimpi, Intocable and Laredo Kid. Koslov wasn't particularly good at doing anything (Chris Stone best of heels on offense and oddly the usually useless Alan Stone I thought was best guy at eating stuff including doing an almost Super Calo eat of Intocable clothesline) but his over the top muggin was really good. Laredo Kid looked better in his Chris Stone interaction stuff than I expected. Pimpi was doing full on Pimpi by numbers but he does that really well and he was easily the best worker in this match. Pimpi is stretchered post match but then still does a backstage skit where Pimpi wants Koslov's belt and I am kind of intrigued by the prospect of a singles match. There also was a Airforce and Intocable v Militia hair v mask challenge which doesn't inerest.
Nicho/Lider v Zorro/Hernandez- FUCK ME. 187 are banned from using weapons. and I don't know when Lider's hair turned so grey. He really looks like that guy who hosts Real Housewives reunions on Bravo.
Cibernetico/ AAA Parka/ Mesias v Perrito, Halloween, Damien--This may be the only match on whole show that I would reccomend watching and it is pretty much just a one man show. Perro Jr does full on charismatic Terry Funk drunken selling, stoogeing and mugging and makes this match. Not high end Terry Funk but houseshow Terry Funk. this is an absolutely inept face team and Perro entertains. Somehow or other Perro gets busted open on the back of his head which kind of adds to the whole thing. He may have gotten busted open on a chair shot which would be really weird because if we were ever to doa top dog thread for who puts up their arms best for chairshot (eats a chair shot in way where you buy the impact rocked him but still puts up hands in a really natural way that feels like how one would realistically respond to a chair coming at them), Perro would be my number one.
tomk - October 11, 2010 12:05 AM (GMT)
Still watching so you don't have to. Three matches with most of the show built around Octagon in a pool of tabasco and ketchup while a long haired guy who drives a similar motorcycle to Cibernetico's bike driving away. Has Cibernetico turned is he being set up? what's the exact proportion of tobasco to ketchup? yadda yadda :
Esther Moreno/Cynthia Romero v Sexy Star/J Blake
Haven't seen the Morenos in ages and they look ridiculous working the gimmick of middle aged women trying to get into clubs while their husbands take care of the kids for the weekend. The rudas stink and Esther Moreno still has a great moonsault and dive.
Joe Lider v Silver Cain/ Ultimo Gladidor and a chair.
Yeah Nicho is injured from last show and doesn't come out till the post match to clear house in a bathrobe and golfclub. Joe Lider looks more and more like Bravo's Andy Cohen every week.
Zorro/Electro Shock/ Hernandez v Heavy Metal/ La Parka/ Mesias..this is actively watchable but I wouldn't reccomend anyone watch it. Kind of shitty to see Metal and Electro dragged into this Legion Extranjera v AAA shit, as it drags them down. Onthe other hand it may elevate that feud. These things normally make you want to gauge your eyes out with a grapefruit spoon. At worst this was just lightly jab with mellonballer.
tomk - October 23, 2010 07:39 PM (GMT)
Militia v Gato Everready, El Brazo, Crazy Boy
Tigre Cota busts himself open on a poorly caught dive where he ends up topeing the rail in first minute of match and has to be removed by doctors. El Brazo and Gato Eveready have some nice dives but this fed needs guys who know how to work rudo. Not askinf for los Diabolicos but the worst version of Los Vipers could work base.
Stone Bros v Laredo Kid/Aeroman-This is dull. Aeroman gets sent to back after loosing his mask leading to a long three on one section where Laredo Kid gets his mask on backwards and is taken advantage of by the rudos and ref..until Aeroman can come back in and do a pointless New Jack style rafter dive. Well New Jack would do that in main event cluster fuck, not in an undercard tag as face transition spot in a match where the faces loose.
LA Park, Halloween, Damian 666 v Dr Wagner Jr, Jack Evans, Extreme Tiger
Super fun, best uppercard AAA match Iíve seen this year. Not anywhere near as good as the 06 Arena Mexico match with Stamboli and Jindrak v Dos Jr and Lizmark Jr. But still super entertaining. Parka and Wagner are charismatic motherfuckers who work really well off each other. I havenít seen Halloween/Damian do anything this year up to this point that would make me think they were as good as 06 Jindrak/Stamboli. But they looked really solid here. Damian really looks to be all of his 50 years old and blows stuff from lack of athleticism but they know how to put their parts in this together properly. Looked like guys who you could plug in a Us indy match opposite green highflyers, and Amusing to think that two years ago Rey was trying to get 48 year old Damian a WWF tryout. One fall match but it feels really complete. Like you could split it up into falls really easily. First fall of about 7 minutes of entertaining rudo control including Park stealing a stroller, hitting Wagner with stroller, hitting Wagner with diaper bag attached to stroller and burying Wagner in Similac. Rudos miss a triple team and technicos come back with dives. Second fall would be the fast exchange fall with Wagner and Parka trading chops and Extreme Tiger getting fast exchange thing with all three rudos and Jack Evans and Familia del Tijuana doing lots of fast face v colliding heels. Third fall is a third fall with comedy worked in well and big finish. Itís not that anyone was working particularly hard here so much as this was the right match with the right guys.
Phil Schneider - November 5, 2010 12:03 AM (GMT)
Halloween/Damien 666/Konan v. Nicho/Joe Liderhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpxUWSCJWg
Probably the best garbage match of 2010, all four guys (Konan was Konan) seemed to revert to 1995 Tijuana and were taking lunatic bumps. Most of their garbage match have felt perfunctory and lazy, this was frantic and insane. Don't know if this would get any of them on, considering how lame most of their performances have been this year, but folks would enjoy it.
Wrestling_KO Mike - November 5, 2010 12:34 AM (GMT)
The extremely low frame rate makes that match almost unwatchable, so hopefully someone else uploads it.
Phil Schneider - November 5, 2010 12:36 AM (GMT)
Wrestling_KO Mike - November 5, 2010 01:44 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I pretty much agree with Phil. Nicho and Damien big bump sections on the outside were excellent and I could see those two making my list.
Wrestling_KO Mike - January 2, 2011 02:40 AM (GMT)
Tomk, do you think there are 100 wrestlers in the world better than Silver King?
Do you think Wagner's any good?
Dylan - March 6, 2011 07:16 PM (GMT)
We all know about Park v. Park and Park v. Mesies, so I am curious if anyone wants to comment on what the other best stuff from AAA was this year. I'd like to make sure I saw everything of note that I could and this is one of the blind spots where I have seen several things, but little that was good or of note.