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 Designing a naval super ship
Thiel
Posted: Mar 19 2010, 07:08 PM


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Why the stealth mount? This thing is going to stand out like a sore thumb anyway, ao it seems like a wasted effort.

Also, for a ship this large, the CIWS armament is awfully light.
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vossiej
Posted: Mar 19 2010, 08:50 PM


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The main CIWS on board this ship is fictional, it is not chosen becouse of its stealth mount, but becouse it uses newer technology. As for the total weaponry, this is still a WIP gents, take a look at my next update with some added weapons:

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As of now, 3 CIWS + 4 Marlin ''CIWS'' and an 8 cell VLS (for ESSM) is added in front of the bridge. It is lowered in the superstructure, so you can't see it directly.
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Eeo
Posted: Mar 19 2010, 11:36 PM


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No RAM launchers?
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vossiej
Posted: Mar 20 2010, 01:02 AM


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Edit.
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vossiej
Posted: Mar 21 2010, 05:06 PM


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colombamike
Posted: Mar 21 2010, 05:43 PM


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I can give my personal opinion
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vossiej
Posted: Mar 21 2010, 06:37 PM


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?: Look at the discription on page 2.

It's nuclear powered, I forgot to mention that.

Size: Does not really matter to me this time, it's even the fact I just wanted to design a super huge ship.

Radar: True, however is there an US counterpart for this long-range radar?

TacTom: You are right about that, they will probably be moved next update.

Mission: Why is that so hazardous? Besides, it's a new concept to get all aspects in to one ship instead of having several for the same task this one can provide.

Door level: You would need to take a look inside, the entrance to the vehicle deck is a bit higer to make the ramp to the second vehicle deck (as well for helicopters further to the stern) a little less steep (therefore needing less space).

Stealth: I abandoned by original plan to make it stealthy, now I just gave it basic stealth charactaristics (hull) and made the rest just... normal.

'Zodiac' door: It's not really for RHIB's, those are located to the rear. I originally wanted to place a lifeboat behind it (like on some LPD's), but I am not so sure of that any more now you have made me aware of the height :P

Glad you like my overall design, or at least the bow & superstructure ;)
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PolluxDeltaSeven
Posted: Mar 21 2010, 11:04 PM


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QUOTE

Radar: True, however is there an US counterpart for this long-range radar?


A "simple" AEGIS system will be enough for such a ship.
Actually, such a long range system is not needed apart for dedicate AAW ships (not always: french Future AAW ships, based on FREMM, probably won't have this radar, only the Herakles).


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Mission: Why is that so hazardous? Besides, it's a new concept to get all aspects in to one ship instead of having several for the same task this one can provide.


I agree with you.
The future dutch JSS will have just such a versatility. And French replenishment tanker will be used as command ship for anti-mine task forces.

So there is no problem with that.

By the way, you could probably optimize your design: the helipad could be put backward, behind the hangar (that could have a crane above it if you want) and the forward radar mast could be removed. That lets you enough space to dispatch the other elements (VLS, cranes, replenishment system and containers)
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vossiej
Posted: Mar 22 2010, 05:18 AM


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OK, let's get back to the radar. I didn't chose AEGIS becouse this is not an air-defense ship, I did chose the Smart-L becouse this is an independant operating long-range radar. I want this ship to be the centre of a battle group, and with that radar you can set up a whole image of the sky for that battle group. For instance if it was to be escorted by frigates or LCS, they lack the ability to air-search a large area.

The British aircraft carriers are also equipped with this radar, and are using using two search radars as well (S1850M/Smart-L & Insyte Artisan 3D Radar). So... yeah :rolleyes:
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Posted: Mar 22 2010, 03:29 PM


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QUOTE
OK, let's get back to the radar. I didn't chose AEGIS becouse this is not an air-defense ship, I did chose the Smart-L becouse this is an independant operating long-range radar. I want this ship to be the centre of a battle group, and with that radar you can set up a whole image of the sky for that battle group. For instance if it was to be escorted by frigates or LCS, they lack the ability to air-search a large area.


Hum, why not.


But as I saw such a ship, it won't be geographically in the center of a battle group. It will most of time stay behind the war zone to provide support and command. That's a thing allowed by modern network warfare.
If the ship works in the middle of a battle group, it will have plenty of AEGIS destroyers and maybe CVN (with their E-2C) to provide the sky control mission. And for the rare missions were it will have to provide sky surveillance, it will be more economical to have a modular system, for example based on UAV with ISAR radars or even AEW&C V-22 or Merlin for example.

And by the way, the last AEGIS systems have quite the same detection range than the Smart-L and will probably be enough to cover some LCS as far as I know.

BTW, I'm not telling that a long range search radar is a bad idea. But a US system sounds more logical.
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IsleofTexas
Posted: Mar 27 2010, 07:03 PM


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Thats a pretty nice ship youre designing. Im in the process of designing ships for my fictional countrys navy, Isle of Texas, and im thinking i should have a ship similar to this. Keep up the good work.
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Posted: Jul 28 2010, 03:16 AM


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My take on the design which I did for an AU. I:

*Shortened the hull and helico area (to the point where the vessel is shorter in length than a Nimitz),

*Solved issues with Zodiac doors

*Took out the Tomahawk launchers

*Replaced original CIWS mounts with Block II Phalanx and Block II SeaRam

*Replaced some .50 OTOs with either Mk38 or M134 (the latter drawing being my creation) and added other MK38 and M134 mounts

*Added LRADs

*Added lifeboats

*Added an anchor (Don't want your uber command vessel just drifting away, do you?)

*Placed hull number and redid naming up top with due attribution.

*Added a 105mm for possible engagements (drawing courtesy of Demon Lord Razgriz).

*Took out Chinooks and whatever that helico was on the crane, replaced with MH-60 Knighthawk (for an amphibious command ship with small additional replenishment role, this seemed like a good choice), drawing courtesy of Darthpanda.

*Recolored EFVs

*Replaced Smart-L with US radar found on carriers (don't know the name).

*Added sonar

*Added Admiral's flag (for command flagship)

*Made some other minor changes.

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NOTE: Things like the 105mm, Mk38s, LRADs and M134s are to counter the threat that fast, small craft pose to larger ships, especially in littoral environments. The last thing you want to happen to your command ship or any ship for that matter is for it to be destroyed or disabled by a bunch of armed knuckleheads in motor dinghys that you can't sufficiently engage.
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