Title: Karl Libknyekht
gollevainen - July 5, 2010 07:18 PM (GMT)
Soviet destroyer of the Northern Fleet (orginally Baltic) Karl Libknyekht ( Karl Liebknecht on russian transliteration) ex-Kapitan Belli of the Gavriil class.
Carthaginian - July 5, 2010 10:59 PM (GMT)
LOL... the gun crews must have had a hard time coordinating their breathing so that they had enough room!
Portsmouth Bill - July 6, 2010 06:57 AM (GMT)
Very nice; it reminds me of the Clemson class, around the same time I suppose; and the bunched rear guns were common to these earlier Soviet warships.
gollevainen - July 6, 2010 01:17 PM (GMT)
Yeah, the Novik's were notorious of that rear gun arragment....directly relating from the fact that when they were designed, Torbedoes were still the main ordanance of destroyers, and their big size game from having big boilers for fast speed
Only WWI experience brougth more GB layout with gunnery focus into fashion and the novik's gun number rose steadily on.
ALVAMA - July 6, 2010 02:47 PM (GMT)
Lovely drawing as allways :) . again a ''bonk'' of Guns and TTs :o
Hood - July 6, 2010 08:14 PM (GMT)
A very good drawing.
I've been trying to grapple with the Novik class myself in the past week but I bow to Golly's efforts here.
I assume most of the several classes of Noviks are roughly identical apart from the batch of Baltic Noviks with the shorter forecastles?
Novice - July 6, 2010 09:21 PM (GMT)
Good work Golly.
One thing though is the guns around the funnels which look like 40mm Bofors guns (without close scrutiny that is)
You are right of course and see here for a small version of the Novic class (though not approved by Golly as a good enough drawing-maybe Golly would be interested in making a fresh onehere
gollevainen - July 7, 2010 02:36 PM (GMT)
|I assume most of the several classes of Noviks are roughly identical apart from the batch of Baltic Noviks with the shorter forecastles? |
Well I think all the sub classes were bit different from each other, and the extensive modernisation in Soviet hands tend to make each individual ship kinda different from each others, even inside a sub-class. The Black sea Novik's I can leave for you if you want to do do them. Just PM me if you are in shortage of reference.
|One thing though is the guns around the funnels which look like 40mm Bofors guns (without close scrutiny that is)|
Well they are 70-K mounts for 37mm singles (a bofors derivate) done in normal shipbucket scale. However the reference drawing for the actuall ship showed them lot smaller (scaling with paint is always bit creative process), and I didn't want to redraw those guns for like the zillionth time, I just took the genuine bucket's way of doing things and squeezed them in. Migth look bit over exagerated...but pixels are ;)
graham - July 8, 2010 05:30 AM (GMT)
Great work as usual Golly just one questions my References "The Soviet Navy Volume 1 Macdonald 1972 by Jug Meister" is a bit varge on when this ship was launched / and completed the book seems to imdicate it was luanched in 1915 and completed in 1928 is this right ?
gollevainen - July 8, 2010 01:31 PM (GMT)
Most of the Gavriil's were left unfinished when the revolution broke out and it took several years before the Soviets managed to re-establish the naval construction in order to complete the unfinished ships.