Hello, I'm Brock. I'm a Wesworld player and Warships Projects Discussion Board lurker.

I don't do much in the way of shipbucket drawings - fiddled with them on occasion - I'm mostly just here to see the pretty pictures! :P

Drawings my new friend, drawings. You are most welcomed, so be free to "lurk" through the forum, said by a former lurker to an actual one ( :P). Once you`ve visited the whole forum, maybe as myself you can change your mind and astonish all of us with a masterpiece drawing, I`m really willing for it. Come aboard, Brockpaine, my friend. :)

Well, I do have one little drawing I modified from Alvama's original - a USN "Standard" style battlecruiser. Aside from that, I'm a talentless cut-and-paste artist. :P

If you think that of yourself, you should know that there is many like you here in the forum, at least there is one......, me ( :P ). You know something that I have learned in the past, the lack of self confidence in what you can achieve, usually makes you feel that you can`t really accomplish lots of things, among them a perfectly finished shipbucket style drawing. But I can tell you one thing that`s certain, it is all in your head, you simply got to let it out. Do it. Not simply do it, but DO IT. This means gather information from here and among the net, books, magazines about a ship that hasn`t been drawn yet, and try to do it from "zero", after you`ve done lots of research, and read all the guidelines and suggestions from other drawers to the members in the making of their respective drawings, then you`ll be ready to start making a drawing, not before. And let me tell you my experience, its awfully hard. You have to deal with lots of patience, and doing the same thing over and over which seems it will never stop, but give time to the time, your advancement will be slowly, and suddenly when you have already lost hope of being able to finnish the damn drawing ........VOILÂ, its finished. You `ll think that its probably one of the most pretty drawings of the shipbucket, because you know how much it took you to finish it. So, don`t be scared my friend, everybody has a first drawing here sooner or later, you`ll see. There is a lot of fellows here willing to help you accomplish that goal, so trust in your fellow-members and show them your advancement, its faster that way. GO FOR IT.......... :rolleyes: :) :D

Oh, I say that in humor. I've actually worked as a technical illustrator before, modifying airplane parts for Cessna. I'm just really out of practice these days...



All due credit be unto Alvama, who's drawing I shamelessly modified. :P (I fussed up the 14"/L50 turrets, added some 5"/L38s I found somewhere, and lengthened the ship to become more battlecruiser-esque.

Theoretical backstory is that it's a fast battleship/battlecruiser version of the New Mexico-class. 12x14", refitted in the late 1930s, maybe makes 27-32 knots while still wearing the armour of a Standard... I anticipate about 40,000 tons. So not Treaty...

So your fooling me around( :P ), after my inspirational speach, jes.......double foolish me ( :D ),...........well , got to see the cup half full of things, than the cup half empty, at least its in the Introductions forum, so anybody who isn`t a member yet, after my beautiful, masterpiece speach( :P ) will not be able to hold back and feel the strong urge to join in, better than T.V. publicity for the bucket..................

Ahaaa, you didn`t credit your drawing correctly, remember to "read the guidelines of the forum before posting", so now since you fooled me around, I won`t help you this time ( he,he,he ), so you got homework to do Brockpaine, my friend , and fix what you did not do right, start reading, I won`t get off your back till you fix it. :ph43r:

Mrr?

That's another reason I'm not a regular shipbucketeer and spend most of my drawing time working in the WW style or in AutoCAD...

*Goes to research*

I`m not the kind of guy, that never forgets when has becomed the reason of joking a bit, I forget harsh things easy. Go to the real life section , see how others have done it, and afterwards go to the shipbucket archive and look among the parts section at the diferent templates, there you choose the right one which has all the indications of how to do it. But fix it ;) :) :P B)

Ahoy Brock!

Nice to see another Wesworld face here. Don't be bashful I thought your US battlecruiser was pretty good and said that at the time.

Don't be fooled he can draw some pretty nice looking ships in non-SB style. I know once you fool with SB you just can't bear to go back to cut and paste.

Query: Going back to make the image Shipbucket-legal, I am reminded once again of the annoying change MS Paint made in the last upgrade. My Arial font does not match the Arial font in the templates; any way I can fix this to use the older Arial style?

welcome aboard that thing is great what is her story?

This one doesn't have much of a story, alas, besides the generic tale: a USN "Standard" battlecruiser built instead of the New Mexico-class BBs. Same armour and guns as the historic New Mexicos, but seriously faster (28-30 knots was the idea).

In other news...

...Resistance was futile. I have been assimilated. Currently decided to go for my golden goose and draw in Shipbucket style the Chilean heavy cruiser CNS Constitution from Wesworld. SHE will have a story to go with her, as the Constitution is my pet project. 9x10" guns, 14x5.12" secondaries, 33 knots, 19,940 tons standard.

Hey Brock, What`s your nationality, if I can ask you ? , I don`t think you are Chilean as in WW, but you got a very interesting story back there, I went back to my "lurking activity" last night. :P

I'm American. In Wesworld, though, I play Chile, Ireland, and Bulgaria - Hood plays two of my next-door neighbors (Britain and Argentina).

How nice I`m American too, actually South American, specifically from Chile, but as all the ones born in the "new land" discovered by Cristopher Columbus and recognized at the moment by Americo Vespucio, we are called Americans :D

At the "Off-Topic" forum, we had kind of the same discussion before, so I understand that you are under all the American standards (except USA and Canada), that you are US american, but as all the rest, American too. :P

One thing, as you know that in Chile we speak spanish, so when you name that new piece of jewelry at WW, name her "Constitución" or "CONSTITUCION"; if we spoke english it would be "Constitution". :)

You're Chilean? Sweet! I'd love to swap notes with you sometime about Wesworld Chile - I took over two game-years ago and I've been working hard on the Armada. Kinda got wrapped up with a short 1937 war with Peru - Peru's leadership got all nationalistic-expansionist and the alliance which I'm a member of had to deal with them. Got a few good naval battles out of it, too!

I was generally aware that the ship should be named Constitución and not Constitution; however, I'm afraid I'm not a Spanish-speaker, and I merely re-used the spelling of the old predreadnought that I replaced. One of those occasions where I was lazy to start with and formed a bad habit for the future. Since you comment on it, I have no excuse now. :P

There are a lot of other oddities that show up in Wesworld Chile's ship-naming schemes: the previous player named a number of ships after anime characters, and I've ended up with a fleet without any ship named Capitan Prat, nor an Esmeralda! Working hard to fix that. You've seen Alvama's stunning drawing of my Latorre-class BBs, and he's working on my secondhand battlecruisers now. :D

NO Brock, your history and background at WW-Chile is very good, when I read about the history and the facts of the nation, its very good. When I visited WW, for the first time, which was not after I met you here ( I told you at the beginning, I`m a very old lurker in the net( :P )), what most surprised me, its that the story was very good (kind of getting a bit redundant here). I really thought that you were Chilean, that knowledge of so many facts is not very common even among my fellowcountry men, most uncommon among somebody who is not from around here (South America). Well something I`ve learned during my lurking, is that among the diferent forums, the same people change their respective "nicks", so if you see somebody with the same "nick" of a friend from here, not necessarily he`s the same one, so I wasn`t so sure when you introduced yourself here, and when you started asking that you didn`t know nothing about drawings, "I ate the bait" entirely thinking that you weren´t the same as in WW, but as you know, hospitality is one of the features of every Chilean, so its very dificult for me not to say at least "hello" to a new comer. Maybe this feature disgusts some of the members here..........
( What does this new "sob" think he is ?......., Who gave him the authority ? ( :P )).............,
but since nobody tells me nothing about the issue I`ll continue doing what I think its right to do. B).

So, since we are friends now, don`t hesitate and ask me anything that can give you doubts. I promise you and any one in the forum, YOU LISTEN OUT THERE, if its at my reach, you got it. About the drawing issue, I can help, but, there is a whole bunch of excellent drawers that can give you a better advice than me here in the forum. :)

Thank you. I suspect some part of that is due to to the fact that I was a history minor in college, and when I started playing Wesworld, I did a lot of careful research into history, culture, geography, the whole nine yards - trying to take on the "persona" of the country I'm playing.

Currently, my big dilemma for Chile is my fleet carrier project. When I took command of Chile, I decided to sell off my two predreadnoughts, Constitución and Libertad - you'd know them as the British Swiftsure-class - and replace them with a pair of ships by the same name. The first I've mentioned previously: heavy cruiser Constitución, with 9x10" guns. The Libertad, which I will be laying down in my next quarterly report, is going to be a fleet carrier. I have... er, several dozen designs by now, which have ranged everywhere from 15,000 tons to larger than a USN Yorktown-class carrier. And I still don't know which design I'm going to build!

Together with a pair of AA cruisers and an octet of new destroyers, the two new ships will form a tidy little carrier strike group for the 1940s and onward. And once they're done... I've got a budget for a brand-new battlewagon. :D Ahhh... but I can wax grandeloquent about my plans for ages, so I should probably head off to bed now.

The last thing that I could tell you, despite what our neighbors say about us, we Chileans are very peaceful people, and we rather solution our problems diplomaticly than going to war, but if you start bullying us, well as natural we will respond. For Chile, in the real world we have discarded the use of big carrier fleets , since we above all prefer to stay in our mother lands than being forced to leave, but our country is a very long one, so its probably needed some kind of vessel to be able to project our selves within our own frontiers, than to the frontiers of another country. But this is "Real life", since WW is AU, you can do what you please with that country you call Chile in your universe. The only problem I see, that it is based on "real life", and we Chileans aren`t so many, so the big question here is............., Where are you going to get so many crew members for so many ships ?, unless your ships don`t need specialized crew members, than you can get farmers, miners, teachers, doctors and a lot of other professionals to board them, which as "Real life" is not so realistic, so, again we come to the same issue I said before,.... its AU (fiction), my friend :) , so have fun with it, and in the process, I`ll have fun watching the diferent designs you make :D