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 Movie Spoilers, As they appear
Homeless
Posted: Sep 16 2010, 12:29 PM


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As we're just hours away from the release of the movie, this thread has accordingly been created to facilitate discussion of spoilers (real or not). Please keep such discussion confined to this thread rather than posting them in the speculation thread, so as to avoid accidentally spoiling things for users that would rather avoid them.

Go nuts.
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Where to begin. There's a ton from 4Chan; several claiming to have been confirmed from the recent Japan viewing of the movie.

The most notable comment was, "it's up to personal tastes."

The movie is basically hit-or-miss regarding what happens (provided the spoilers are true), and personally, I'm sure that several members here may be very put off with the final result if the spoilers turn out to be correct.

I've kept my expectations low, so from what I've read, it looks to be an enjoyable runaway train to ride to the end.
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Various ones off 4chan. Take with a grain of salt, naturally.

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Reposting the spoilers; FYI as far as 2ch is confirmed these are true, several different people with different sets of spoilers corroborating each other and what official info we have. The guy going "2ch confirmed their fake!!" is lying.

So here they are.

>>Is it true that the Gaderaza doesn't fight much?

On the first time it sorties it just destroys a Jupiter probe, on the second time it gets eaten by the ELS.

In fact the MS don't do anything much at all, even the new Gundams keep getting owned by the ELS. I can't even tell what's so great about the Quanta, are they expecting this to sell kits?

>>Feldt looked heroine-ish in the trailer, what happened to Marina?

Feldt is the heroine throughout the movie, but in the ending it's Marina (now an old woman) who shows up with a grey-coloured Setsuna, "understanding each other".

Tieria remakes his physical body to help the meisters who're getting owned by the ELS, and then in the next battle he abandons it again to save Setsuna, blowing himself up.

Because Veda is needed in addition to the GN Drive and an Innovator in order to talk to the ELS, he shows up as a handheld-sized hologram in the Quanta's cockpit.

In the end Setsuna talks to the ELS, and then warps off to their home planet along with Tieria to their planet.

After that a giant flower appears in the battlefield, apparently proof that the talks succeeded

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4 :通常の名無しさんの3倍:2010/09/15(水) 21:43:00 ID:???
まとめ

刹那…メンヘラ後ELSの星ヘワープして花化、灰色になってババマリに会う
ティエリア…肉体復活して自爆してクアンタの一部になる
ライル…鯖は死ぬけどライルは生き残る
アレルヤ…トラックと戦闘後マリーとハルートへ
デカルト…ELSに取り込まれるが特になにもおこらない
グラハム…刹那を助けるために特攻して死亡
ビリー…ミーナとラブラブ
沙慈…ずっと宇宙で作業して僕映画出てなかった
ルイス…頭痛で苦しむだけ
フェルト…ずっと刹那を心配する
ミレイナ…どんな姿でもティエリア好き
マリナ…王宮を開放して救助、最後婆になって刹那と再会
映画ソレビ…1分くらいでCBがアレハン倒すだけ

ラストの文
「Peace cannot be kept by force.
It can only be achieved by understanding.

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Setsuna: Goes nutty then warps to the ELS planet and becomes a flower then comes back grey-coloured to meet granny Marina.

Tieria: Abandons physical form to become part of Quanta.

Lyle: Sabanya is blown up but Lyle lives.

Allelujah: Fights in a truck then reunites with Marie and gets Harute.

Decalt: Gets eaten by ELS but is alive, does nothing worthy of note.

Graham: Kamikazes to save Setsuna.

Billy: Love Mina

Saji: Space worker again

Louise: Has a headache

Feldt: Worries about Setsuna

Mileina: Likes Tieria regardless of what he is

Marina: Palace is freed, meets Setsuna as an old lady.

Movie CB (what?): Defeats Allejandro in a minute, that's all.

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More moon squiggles because I like confusing people.

刹那―クアンタムシステムは脳量子波を増幅させるようなもの。
   最後に使うが刹那がELSと何を対話したのかは最後の
   マリナとの再開まで語られない。
   ELSとはフラッグでファーストコンタクト。
ロックオン―アニュー2とはなんも無い。
      連邦に潜入中に見かけるだけ。
      クアンタムでニールと対話、
      兄への嫉妬もなにもかも消え吹っ切れる。
      アレマリ、連邦パイロットかばって死亡。
アレルヤ―マイスターで唯一生存。
     マリーと余生を過ごします。
     ハレルヤとのコンビがすごい。
     アレハレマリピーリス計4人の
     腹座、GN無双。
     ハレルヤはトラック無双もあり、
ティエリア―基本的に刹那をかばう。
      ELS2戦目で駆けつけ、
      3戦目でラファエルギミック公開、
      後ろの人は本体にくっついて追加武装
      になる。刹那が『答えろぉぉぉ!!』
      で対話できず、気絶した時に新ギミック
      分離でガンダム2機になる。
      刹那守りきれずに本体は串刺し、
      肉体を捨てる。
      以降背中の人をヴェーダを介して操る。
      ちなみに背中の人は個別名称なし。

マリナ―本予告ロングのナレーションは
    戦いから30年?ぐらいたったマリナの声。
    最後に刹那と小難しい話をする。
ELS―遠い別の銀河の星で生まれた金属生命体。
    別の生物に星を破壊された。
    ELSの中でもイノベイターのように
    覚醒した者がいてそいつらは星を脱して
    宇宙を放浪している時に地球からの木星探査船に出会った。
ルイス―イノベイターに覚醒しつつある。
    連邦政府がイノベイター候補を脳量子波遮断施設
    に移送するのはELSと対話させるため。
サジ―ルイスをつれて生かせるわけにはいかないので
   奔走する。男らしくなったが、ほぼ無力。

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Setsuna: Quantum System is something that amplifies quantum brain waves. It's not revealed what he did till he tells Marina at the end. First contact with the ELS is with a Flag.

Lockon: Nothing with Anew 2, he just sees her and that's it. Talks to Neal through Quantum, and gets over his jealousy of him. Blown up protect Allelujah/Marie.

Allelujah: Lives happily ever after with Marie.

Tieria: Raphael has two gimmicks, one is for the thing on the back to clamp on to something and become additional equipment, or transform into another Gundam (no name for it given). Can still control the back Gundam through Veda even after abandoning physical form again.

Long trailer's narrator is Marina +30 years.

ELS are metal life-forms from another galaxy, they were wandering the universe when they ran into the Jupiter ship.

Louise: Is becoming an innovator.

Saji: Is useless.
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QUOTE (Homeless @ Sep 16 2010, 10:17 PM)
Billy: Love Mina

Possibly, but judging from the expressions we've seen him use when talking with her so far I'd say it is a tsundere love. Also It is highly unlikely that she would love him back. It's Billy where talking about after all.

That said I'd say that while some of the spoilers might turn out too be true it is doubtful that the people posting them have actually seen the movie.

1. They provide absolutely no proof and the reason people seem to think they are real is because so many people say almost the same thing. But we all know that a raid invovling several people isn't all that hard to pull off.

2. Nothing they've posted so far is all that outlandish. It is all safe reveals which in turn will make it fal likely for people to beleive it.

3. All the reveals are things that you can make logical assumption will happen in the movie as long as you've watched the trailers, read Mizushima's blogs and is familiar with how Gundam usually pans out.

4. So many different sources, some of which claim they have seen the movie because they own the cinema... and NON of them provide even a single photograph to support their claims. Not even a blurry one. At least the ones claiming to be owners of a cinema should be able to provide us with this.


All those things mentioned above supports the idea that the spoilers are fake.
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http://photozou.jp/photo/top/482956

Mass of images from 00A, including 00I and the movie adaptation. I don't feel like trying to sort them out or upload 'em all, so conveniently here's an album.
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Yavie
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QUOTE (Homeless @ Sep 17 2010, 12:47 PM)
http://photozou.jp/photo/top/482956

Mass of images from 00A, including 00I and the movie adaptation. I don't feel like trying to sort them out or upload 'em all, so conveniently here's an album.

How about you translate them all instead? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE
wow. im not going to lie. great middle, so much action. dud ending. dissapointing for sure. unless u like peace and thinking.
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Supposedly a glut of details from the film. Again, grain of salt.

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・ほぼオールキャストで最終決戦
・ELSはMSや戦艦に変形。紫の粒子を出す機体になる
 すげえ味方と区別つきにくい死ね
・小熊とハムは死ぬ。コーラは撃墜されるが生きてる
・クアンタにはクアンタムシステムというトランザムみたいなシステムがあり
 広範囲に高濃度の脳量子を展開して敵味方問わず思考をリンクさせることが出来る
 しかし、まともに活躍しない最後に出てくるだけ
・刹那はクアンタを使ってELS母艦と接触する
 なんかでっかい花一輪になって戦闘停止
・EDスタッフロール後ちょこっと後日談
 数十年後、外宇宙船スメラギが出向する
 乗ってるのは全員目覚めたイノベイダー。どうみてもスメラギさんが居る
・ババァになったマリナに金属生命体みたく銀色になった刹那が合いに来てオワリ
・ビリーはミーナで童貞卒業
感想
 ガンダムじゃなくていいじゃ
 なんかネウロイと戦ってるスト魔女を思い出したわ
 水島はTV見て無くても分かるって言ったけどウソ
 小熊とかすげえ何の説明も無く出てくる
具体的な数字を忘れないうちに
・物量差 1:10000
・巨大ELS直径3000km
・西暦2364年 外宇宙航行艦スメラギ出航
・同年、イノベイターは地球人の4割に
・2091年 まだ髪生えてるイオリアとリボンズオリジナル?と会話
・侵食された女子高生エロい、ミーナ太ももエロス
・ビリー「やさしくしてください」
・ガデラーザとデカルトさんは序盤で速攻撃沈。何しに出てきたの?
・ラファエルは太陽炉積んでない。こちらもすぐ撃沈。上に載ってるのはセラヴィー
 ティエリアは肉体を失うがデータとして参加
・ハールートはキュリオスガストみたいなブースターが付く
 サバーニャはシルドビット増量「乱れ撃つぜ」解禁

ELSの大群(母艦と思わしいのは月とほぼ同じ大きさ)
 は木星の大赤班からワープアウトしてくる
 脳量子派を使える人間をねらう。ELSの大群が地球に到達するまで3ヶ月。
 地球から7日の所で最終防衛線を貼る


リヒティ、クリス、ニールとか死んだCBメンバー刹那の意識の中に登場。
ハム、子熊、デカルト、死亡。
荒熊の上官だったキム?上官も中々の活躍も死亡。
ティエも死んだが肉体は自分にとっては器~みたいなこと言ってた。
未来の世界では人類の4割がイノベイターにw


アンドレイ→大型ELSを相手に特攻「父と母がなんたら…」
キム中将→ELSに取り込まれながら「これが現実とは認められん!」
デカルト→あんまあっけなさすぎて覚えてません
グラハム→ELS本体に特攻「これは自爆ではない!未来を切り開く……」


刹那フラッグの出番は少なかった
視察に来た?マリナとシーリンを乗せた機体が襲われて刹那の乗ったフラッグ登場
マリナと話してた男がマリナに銃を向けて発砲 他の人が撃たれる
再びマリナに銃を向けられるんだけど「これであなたの家族が幸せになれるんですね」って言って
撃つ方が迷った表情を見せる
この時にパイスー姿の誰かが助けに来て刹那かと思ったんだけど(顔が見えない)助けに来たのはロックオンだった
名前は名乗らずに消える

去った後すぐにマリナとシーリンはソレスタルビーイング?!と気付く
戻ったロックオンは刹那に「いいのか?会わなくて」みたいなことを聞くけど刹那は「これでいい」
ロックオンがまったくイノベイターのクセに鈍いうんちゃらかんちゃら

その後プトレマイオス2に帰還 
ハンガーのすぐそばにフェルトが飲み物を用意して待っててくれる
ロックオンは受け取ってフェルトに「いい女になってきたんじゃないか?」
刹那は受け取らずに何か考え事をしながらいってしまう」
フェルトががっかりしてるとロックオンが「本当に鈍いんだからうんちゃらかんちゃら」




ELSが宇宙空間に花の形を咲かせてマリナが分かり合えたうんちゃらかんちゃfらみたいな事呟いてエンドロール

エンドロール画面になった瞬間劇場中が「???????????????」みたいな空気になって
まさかこれでオワ欄だろうってことでエンドロール終わるまで待ってたんだけどやっぱりその後映像が来て
イオリア+リボンズ原型? の後 マリナ+刹那 だからフェルトが最後どうなったかわからない

逆に言うと最後に映ったフェルトはプトレマイオス2でオペレーターしてた時なので
フェルトに関しては視聴者に想像の余地を与えたと思ってます




ビリーなんだけどビリーとスメラギの絡みは完全に0だった
通信機を通しての会話も0

ミーナから「また昔の女のこと思い出してるの?」
って発言があったくらい

ビリーは完全にミーナの色仕掛けにやられててこれから人類VSELSの決戦の時に
ビリーとミーナがイチャつくシーンがあったんだけどその時に
ミーナ「こんな時だからこそするの」
~中略~
ビリー「優しくしてください」
キス
見たいな感じだった

このシーンを実際に見ればわかるけどビリーは完全にもう童貞じゃない
あるいはこの時に脱童貞した
個人的な意見では後者だと思ってる

ミーナのアピールは本当に凄くて初登場のときにビリーが現れてビリーだとわかった瞬間抱きついて押し倒して人前で腰ふりふり


スタッフロール見てたら
原画数十人、名前は知れてるアニメ会社数十社が載っててワラタ
すげえ金使ったのか、総力戦の短期決戦で作ったと思われ


刹那フラッグ
GNソード2持ったフラッグたぶんコンデンサ
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Posted: Sep 17 2010, 10:51 PM


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Gundam.tk spoiler video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o28FD-C_d5I...player_embedded

And review video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIK4forZvmA...player_embedded

EDIT: According to his impressions of the characters and suits, 00 Qan[T] only sorties towards the end of the movie, Harute changes depending on whether Allelujah or Hallelujah is in control (ex. the face mask/6-eyes mode), and the Raphael's backpack transforms into "Seravee" and saves a "very major character"
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Nothing about Dynames so far... guess it was dropped. A little dissapointed there.
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QUOTE (WingZeroAL @ Sep 18 2010, 04:09 PM)
Nothing about Dynames so far... guess it was dropped.

Not quite... Ngeekhiong spoilers for the movie:

http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2010/09/gun...e-spoilers.html

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- Allelujah and Marie were attacked in Mongolia before being saved by Lockon in Gundam Dynames (!)


Also

QUOTE
Setsuna appears at the beginning of the movie piloting a Flag and saves Marina from the attack of GN-X that doesn't belong to the Earth Federation


So the concepts did make it to the movie it seems...
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Hell, looks like I was wrong. The spoilers before the movie did seem to be true. But really makes me wonder why non of them took a photograph of the movie to support their claims.
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Some more mecha-focused comments.

QUOTE (radioactive28)
ELS:
Aliens, and living metal as the name points out.
Starts off assimilating vehicles to attack indviduals with high QBW (revealed as those with high potential to become Innovators) when bits of them first land on Earth. They are attracted by QBW and their presence invokes negative reactions from such individuals.
Later assimilates bigger machines like MSes and warships in battle, along the way gaining the ability to replicate technology they come into contact with.
There's actually a lot to say about them, but that would cover a good bit of plot, so not going there.

Gaderaza:
Big MA: many, many GN Fangs; one huge cannon; some sort of transformation/expansion to facilitate attacks, but no MS mode. Does not even survive half the show, assimilated and destroyed by ELS in the first major encounter. Bye, Descartes.

Braves:
Elite units, seems to be considerably more powerful than the grunt units.

Grunt units:
Well, nothing much to say, since I wasn't paying much attention to them.

00 Raiser:
No surprises, operating with condenser tanks. Arrives after the destruction of Gadelaza, eventually destroyed because Setsuna was affected by the ELS and couldn't fight. Setsuna almost goes too.

Raphael:
Tieria returns in a body. No surprises for the backpack, it's just Seravee. Both mechs are eventually sacrificed in a bid to save Setsuna. Tieria destroyed in the process. No big deal, he's still in VEDA, transferring to a physical body is just a convenience.
Like Gaderaza, it was gone by the first half of the show.

Zabanya:
Again, not much surprises beyond the trailers. Two Haros enable random sniping mode when the action gets thick and messy. Goes Trans-Am in the main battle, rises above the battlefield to do long-distance random sniping, rather effective.

Harute:
Al and Hal swaps in and out at will, no arguments or moral/ethical battles. Rather messy action (too messy, really), didn't catch some gimmicks (Scissors Bit?) if they were there. Went into the final battle with boosters on its legs. Tail missile container can be discarded after use. 6-eyed mode was activated, but I'm not sure about the purpose. They mentioned something about a Gundam for Super Soldiers.

00 Quanta:
Two specially-made GN Drives for high-compression particles. The only new true GN Drives in the show. Mini VEDA box installed in the cockpit, Tieria floats around as an avatar. The Sword Bits form up in a circle to create a field/shield. Handheld mode for Bits wasn't shown. Buster rifle has crazy power and range, basically a Raiser Sword.
Quantum System activated for the Dialogue. The shield aligns to the back for this, all the major condensors in the body are released/exposed.
Here's the shocker: towards the end, 00Q flies into circle formed by Sword Bits and teleports to the unknown homeworld of the ELS. The real deal, not the split-second movement that 00 Raiser did in S2.

Post-credit epilogue:
- Young Aeolia and an unknown man talks about his findings ("particles that transmit thoughts," among others), his motivation and his plans.
- Setsuna returns to see Marina. He has seemingly white hair (a proof of being a special Innovator, I suppose, as opposed to 25% of the human population who are now Innovators), but appearance is the same otherwise. She's an old lady 50-odd years after the initial alien encounter.
- 00Q is shown covered by flowers, shield aligned on its back; Sword Bits are attached to the shield, but spread out to give the appearance of wings (much like Strike Freedom)
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Sigh! from all the reviews make me wanna see it.....

^%%*% lucky Singaporeans...
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