Is the 'Ribbons' DNA source evil by default?
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00P's final chapter also hint that the two Innovades working under Beside Pain were also of DNA type 0026. So maybe that is indeed what they are saying, that there is something wrong with 0026 types, maybe not that they're evil per say, but whatever process goes into making them is flawed in someway.
I don't know but, it seems that either 0026 is evil or we're missing something.
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@ Hellcat: Perhaps the movie will give more satisfying answers, as I doubt we have seen the last of Ribbons or the 0026 base pattern type.
| QUOTE (SonicSP @ Nov 3 2009, 01:50 PM) | While we don't know how old Ribbons is,and he may not be the first 0026.Wasn't it said that he considered the creations of Combat Innovade contradictory to the goals of the Plans? I think the S2 Official File 6 mentioned that Ribbons was the first Innovade created. |
| QUOTE (S2 Official File 6 excerpt by Good Haro/citrinitas668) | P8-11: Enemy Camp
- The era the Innovado were created in and their tuning varies.
- Ribbons’ type was most likely borne from an earlier model, and was given qualities which differ from the later types.
P14-15: Innovedo
- Ribbons was the very first Innovedo produced.
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This seems conflicting. I don't know wether this is due to a translation error on Good Haro's part, or simply an oversight of the staff, but I reckon the former. Also, the recently launched 00I manga so far tells us that Innovedos were already around 124 years before the start of the second season, and took part in CB's Jupiter missions. (Launched to create the GN Drives, I presume).
Therefore, I think that Ribbons is the first Innovedo produced -of the ones that have appeared in the anime sofar- but that he is based on an earlier 'proto-Ribbons' with whom he shares the same DNA sequence. If however Ribbons IS the very first Innovedo, he'd be at least 124 years old, and arguably decades older.
As for "nature vs. nurture", this is what Good Haro blogged in the same excerpt:
| QUOTE (S2 Official File 6 excerpt by Good Haro/citrinitas668) | P8-11: Enemy Camp
- The personalities of the Innovedo who were born from then on were regulated to an extent.
- The biggest mistake of CB and Veda in producing the Innovedo was the construction of combat type Innovedo. “My kind are stronger than humans,” this sort of simple sentiment began to develop, and Ribbons was the first to realize the fundamental contradiction [behind the idea].
P14-15: Innovedo
- Ribbons was O Gundam’s original Meister, but he knew that according to the plan the Meisters were to perish. Because of that, Ribbons considered surrendering [his position as a] Meister. “I want to see Aeolia’s plan to the end!” he thought. Ribbons didn’t want to die. Even though he didn’t understand that to the end, it was tied to the plan’s failure.
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I think that settles it pretty much that Ribbons or other Innovedos aren't born evil, but rather become that way through life. Ribbons simply rejected being a sacrificial pawn in Aeolia Schenberg's Plan© which left him feeling scorned very badly. He opted to take it out on his own creators and humanity, acting (perhaps childishly) defiant. I find that quite understandable given the situation yet also a very human thing to do. The biggest fault I can find is that Innovedos seem emotionally immature, which is understandable given their position. And its known that kids can be very cruel.
The irony of CB being (un)wittingly responsible for creating its own (and humanity's) nemeses, is pretty much embodied by Ribbons. However the way it plays out, Ribbons being the victim-turned-aggressor rather than evil born, is what makes 00's ambiguity, and Ribbons' character, work IMO.
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From all that it seems that rather than 'Ribbons is evil', the nature of combat Innovades makes them more predisposed to this kind of behaviour, with people writing the stories using 0026 types just as a reference to Ribbons, with no real thought as to what this implies. I'm not sure, but wasn't it said that all of Ribbons' cronies were combat types?
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