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 Stormbird
Siegemaster
Posted: May 17 2010, 08:08 PM





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Ok so this is a blatant copy of BulldogUK's work on his own Stormbird. I admit it, he is better at this than I am but it is a great idea and mine is a bit different. So when a friend approached me and asked me if I would build him 2 Stormbirds in exchange for the Dragonfly to make my own I said yes, what can I say I am a sucker. My buddy had the Aurora dropship but only one so In an attempt to make these 3 all look like the same ship I decided to build the troop compartment form scratch. I have alot of 1/8" material from making my titans so I have lots of cheap supplies.

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This is the beginning. What do you think?


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Siegemaster
Posted: May 18 2010, 12:16 PM





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So here are scale pictures.

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Siegemaster
Posted: May 18 2010, 12:34 PM





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And some more progress.

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In the Horus Heresy books they refer to the stormbird having some sort of rotary cannon. I am figuring it will be a Vulcan Mega Bolter the white tubes will be the base of the gun.

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in this last picture you can see where I covered the handle on the toy, it was pretty tricky but I think it turned out well.


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Posted: May 18 2010, 08:02 PM





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So I did some work on the nose and the engines.

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The pictures are a little dark I need to find a better background.


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bikeninja
Posted: May 19 2010, 04:34 AM





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Nice work..........don't sell yourself short. It looks good. Nice to see a somewhat different approach.
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So I made a little progress with the turbines. wrapping the plasticard around them was easier than I thought it would be but I still need to add some layers to them for detail and to stiffen them up.

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I also added the rear fins. the glue I am using actually bonds to the plastic of the model so that has been a great help. I just cut the fins to a 40 degree angle and glued them in place it worked like a charm.

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THis is the next area I need to work on. The rear is a little flat and I need to get some detail in here but I am still not sure what exactly I am going to add. I am not doing the jets like on BulldogUK's model first because They don't seem to fit well in my mind and because I don't have the parts to do it.

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This was a little experiment to see how small I could cut something out on the router I am using. The answer is pretty damn small. The holes are the size of the bit that the router uses, it is about 3/32" or so. I might use this for the chin gun though I am in favor of the twin linked heavy bolter like BulldogUK used or maybe a Las Cannon. I have a bigger set of these to use for the Mega Bolter but the holes are not 1/4" like I thought and I need to run out and get the right sized tube.


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Posted: May 20 2010, 12:24 PM





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SO I thought I was done making vulcan mega bolters after the last 8 I build, but it was my idea to make more for this project so it is really all my fault.

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And because I cannot make just one my forge is taking delivery on the other 2 dragonhawk drive units today. I hope to have production line photos for you soon.


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Posted: May 27 2010, 02:20 PM





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Mass production

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Posted: May 27 2010, 02:58 PM





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I keep wondering if you're ever going to hit the limit of what you can do to challenge yourself.

Then I thought, the hardest thing for you might be... to only build one of something.

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I have some questions about the material you use. It's Sintra, right? Is that like 100% styrene, or is it a sandwich of other materials? Can you just use plastic cement on it? What is it like to cut/work with (by hand, other than the CNC)?

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Ya I rarely get to make one offs although I am making a Mole right now that is a one off and if I ever do a reaver it will be a one off.

Sintra is not styrene at all it is PVC and I use a PVC Cement the same as plumbers that use PVC pipe. It creates a very strong bond and makes these models very durable. Some of these cements also bond styrene. the nose piece has a thin piece of styrene on it that is glued with the same cement as the rest of the model and the fins on the back are just glued straight to the existing model and are surprisingly rigid. As for working with the material it has smooth surfaces but a sort of foam interior, it is all the same plastic but different consistencies. The stormbirds are actually completely hand built and I am using a table saw and a miter saw to cut some pieces but a lot is cut with an Xacto knife. One of the things I figured out lately is that I can shape it with a regular wood plane. This has been very helpful to get smooth angles and to back cut angled parts to fit nicely. you can see my plane in the lower right of the last picture I posted.


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Posted: May 27 2010, 07:19 PM





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Some people have been asking what kind of glue I use. Well this is it.

I have spent some time adding detail plates to the stormbirds what do you all think?

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Posted: May 28 2010, 02:21 PM





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Where does one get this PVC material and how much does it cost? I really like your work. I would love to see the game that all three are used in.

Good luck with the rest of the work.
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The detail panels look good. I'm always amazed at how a few geometric shapes can make such a difference in big flat areas.

Thanks for the info on the material. My friend's father-in-law works for a plastics distributor, so I've been shopping around for something board-like that he might be able to get. I've heard of Sintra and Gatorfoam, but I've not talked to anyone who used them for hobby models. Is there anything else you've tried?

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QUOTE (bikeninja @ May 28 2010, 08:21 AM)
Where does one get this PVC material and how much does it cost? I really like your work. I would love to see the game that all three are used in.

Good luck with the rest of the work.

Find a local plastics distributor or a sign shop and talk to them. It runs about $30 for a 4x8 of 1/8" material, maybe more I haven't bought it retail.

They all 3 should show up at out Siegeworld event here in St. Louis on August 14th

@ Hatemonger I have used a product that has PVC on the inside and aluminum on the outside, I forget what it was called. The router cut grooves through one layer of metal and the plastic and I was then able to fold it around a frame. this is the red and yellow material you can see on my Warhounds. It is kinda cool but pretty hard to work with. I have also thought of using Gatorfoam, I think that is the stuff with Styrene on the outsides? That would let you make some pretty big things very cheaply and light weight.


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QUOTE (Siegemaster @ May 28 2010, 10:49 AM)
@ Hatemonger I have used a product that has PVC on the inside and aluminum on the outside, I forget what it was called. The router cut grooves through one layer of metal and the plastic and I was then able to fold it around a frame. this is the red and yellow material you can see on my Warhounds. It is kinda cool but pretty hard to work with. I have also thought of using Gatorfoam, I think that is the stuff with Styrene on the outsides? That would let you make some pretty big things very cheaply and light weight.

There are two types of Gator boards that I read about. One seems more like normal foamcore, but with some kind of paper/plastic hybrid sheet instead of cardstock. The other is all styrene (plastic foam and plastic sheet outside). The latter is what intrigued me, since it seems like you could get the best of foamcore and plasticard, and use styrene cement to glue it together.

But, I don't know anything about using it, and my access to tools is limited to basic wood-shop type things, e.g. I have a scroll saw a drill press, but not a milling machine etc.

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Posted: Jun 1 2010, 08:13 PM





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Well the forge is nearing completion on the stormbirds. Two will go to serve the Space Wolves chapter and the third will serve the Crimson Fists. I need to finish up the weapon systems, the landing gear and doors and they are ready to fly.

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Posted: Jul 12 2010, 07:26 PM





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I got a coat of paint on my stormbird today. The blue is not really that ULTRA it really is darker. it is here with a thunderhawk for size comparison.


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bikeninja
Posted: Jul 13 2010, 02:33 AM





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You have done (in my opinion) BulldogUK proud. Looks cool. Well done.
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Ah, if only I were this intrepid.
Or determined.
Or friggin' genius... thumbs_up.gif


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Posted: Aug 18 2010, 12:56 PM





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And just think I have 2 friends that want one for themselves. That will be 5 when all is said and done.


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