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Title: M107/110 Spg
Description: Indirect Fire Bascilisk


Lt. Walke - May 21, 2005 07:01 PM (GMT)
This is the link to my Artillery section

The M107 is nearing completion and is the open topped on the M109 is the armageddon pattern basilsk

Mobile artillery and the like

M56 scorpian is the half built Salamander scout car.

GreyDeath - May 22, 2005 12:31 AM (GMT)
Looking really cool.

You have a nitch for military stuff.
Did you used to do scale military models befroe 40k ones?

Oh and I want to see the little scorpion done.... :D Love little tanks.

Lt. Walke - July 29, 2005 09:22 PM (GMT)
Oh my god I missed your reply GD i thought no one was interested in the vehicles. Ooops. As to your above query Yes I used to build Army stuff Mostly Aircraft (Hueys and Hercules being my favorite model aircraft) almost all in the 1/72th scale. Then I went on a Star Wars building and converting blitz. I used to alter the snap fit X-Wing to be more accurate by filling in the holes and turing the Lasers to there proper angles and the like. I should go find the Millenium Falcon I built Only got half done as I was trying to add the additional landing gear as seen in movies 5 and 6. I had something like over 40 pictures post cards and whatnot for the detailed painting and battle damage details. The top half was actually complete. I think that I gave it to my brother in law. Half to go check his old bedroom at me mother in laws sometime to see if it is still around.

Lt.

GreyDeath - August 1, 2005 06:08 PM (GMT)
just checking back in on your work?
You had said you where almost done with your artillary.
But with your Hard Case and the contest your probable no farther along right?

And hows the idea of the scorpion coming along?
You have seen my mini tanks all based off the idea of the scorpion lite tank.

Well just checking back on your little tank?

Lt. Walke - August 1, 2005 06:16 PM (GMT)
Actually I really am unhappy with the Forge world Autocannons and as the Imp guard infantry one is being used to extended my Hvy bolters on the M16 it has just sat there as of late. Also I am still unsure as to whether or not I should make the Track system beefier on the M109 armageddon bascilisk. The problem is I do not know if I can afford the Large road wheels for so many tanks so I am working on a method of making the Small road wheeels more useful doing something along the lines of a Sherman suspension system.

Here is a link to a inspirational photo spread:
Linky

This is my current idea for my artillery, Chimeras, and Possibly even my Retsud. My beef with it is It is not following the historical look.

But sometimes the pocket book dictates the end result.

Lt.

not_themilkybarkid - August 1, 2005 06:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GreyDeath @ Aug 1 2005, 06:08 PM)
And hows the idea of the scorpion coming along?
You have seen my mini tanks all based off the idea of the scorpion lite tank.

I've no seen them. :unsure:

Lt. Walke - August 1, 2005 07:21 PM (GMT)
Did you click on the linky in the first post It will take you to the menu in my MSN group picts regarding my Arty.

If that does not work let me know.

Lt.

not_themilkybarkid - August 1, 2005 07:27 PM (GMT)
I meant I hadn't seen GreyDeath's scoutcars.

Lt. Walke - August 1, 2005 07:38 PM (GMT)
Ahhh ok I understand now. I think he is refering to his marine mini tanks as an FYI.

Lt.

They should be in the marine section.

Lt. Walke - August 12, 2005 03:51 AM (GMT)
SHe already did as she was my runt herder (got her ein for free by saying she was there to babysit me) and we went up to Games day in Toronto we spent like 3 hours getting bitz and chatting with forge world staff. Man my wife must really love me thank god. It is the Armageddon pattern Bascilisk but I am going to modify the rear hatch. other than that the FW stuff will be stock.

Lt.

Lt. Walke - October 2, 2005 05:53 AM (GMT)
Ok in trade for my old version mf the M107/110 I got a new Bascilisk kit. And as usual I do not have enough kits on the go so I started a few more tonight (including the track layout for my M48) So I sat down and began assembling the "proper track Layout for the M107/110 SPG's. The neat thing is these were in service and slowly replacing the older M53 M52 and M54 series guns during the Vietnam conflict.

What I have in the pictures is my new track design that is 5 large road wheels in length. The top photo is that of my original interpretation although a little further along when I traded it the track system never seemed to appeal to me, probably because it reminded me so much of my M113 track layouts. Anyway the M53 is actually based on the M48 chassis (no way I have enough road wheels for that (hence the layout that hints instead of being a duplicate of the real deal) The M107 and M110 are Based on the M113 I do believe but I am going to make the track layout accurate. The second photo is that of the new design laid upon M16 tracked MGMC as it is a Bascilisk chassis. This is really cool as the new design although longer than a chimera hull is actually only as long as the hull + rear plate, not a problem as I will just extend the hull. The third photo is the new layout with the M53 layout showing how much longer it really is.

user posted image

So what do you think?

Lt.

*edit I also finished the other side of tracks so next is the hull.*

GreyDeath - October 2, 2005 07:20 AM (GMT)
What a bunch of Junk!......... Ya my guard stuff compared to how good you are with makeing guard vehicles. ;)
All those tracks are awesome..
Very cool.

Looking good and cant believe how you knock these things out and come up with more ideas again and again for them.

And one more time kinda slow?
Whats the deal with the road wheels sitting in front of the other ones?
The green ones your self propelled your not going double tracks your going to switch them out for those?

Anyways cool keep them coming...

:)

Lt. Walke - October 2, 2005 07:25 AM (GMT)
No I was just trying to show how long the new design really is so I took out the closest thing to a Bascilisk (My tracked M16 is a basi with minorly modified tracks and different gun layout inside) SO I laid the tracks on top of the MGMC hull to show that they go the whole way to the back not just stop before the deck plate.

Hey with this many IG vehicles under my belt I think that I should be even better at getting things done. And lets be honest here you are the master of the Converted Marine Vehicle, hell your Gun truck inspired a whole new concept within the heads of us treadheads.

Lt.

GreyDeath - October 2, 2005 07:30 AM (GMT)
Oh now I get it.
Thanks.
And yep there cool.
But how the heck you going to get enough of the large wheels only?
There the hardest to come buy.
Thats 5 sprues right there?
Oh dont let your wife read this..... :lol: ;)

Oh and about me and my marine jeep even I get lucky sometimes.... ^_^

Lt. Walke - October 2, 2005 07:34 AM (GMT)
LoL as the M41 and M42 use only 6 sprues of Large but need 8 sprues f the Medium I have a few extra kickin around. That leaves me 4 Large road wheels per M42 or M41.

Lt.

He hits one out the park with an awesome piece that lots of people are copying to some degree and he says he got lucky folks. LoL.

GreyDeath - October 2, 2005 07:36 AM (GMT)
I guess that makes since using the large you need less.
Thats true and medium take more and still only get two on a sprue.
So ya that sucks too.

Well cool then this is actually better and looks cool.
Nice one.


Well cool.
I will check back later see ya...

:)

Lt. Walke - October 13, 2005 11:49 PM (GMT)
Well I finally got around to working on my M107/110 again last night and actually got some progress with the hull. I am trimming the inner side plate down to match the actual hull and am extending it to the rear of the gun deck.

here are some inprogress pics
user posted image

As you can see I am still extending the hull on the underside.

any and all comments pls.

Lt.

fitmanb - October 14, 2005 06:06 AM (GMT)
I really like the new layout - it looks more'capable'. Nice work can't we to see it finished.
Two questions
Are you going to do the big dozer thing on the back as well?
Are you going to mess around with the barrel and go for the short stubby or the long one?

FMB
(And you were right I didn't get any sleep last night - darn it GD!)


Wittman - October 14, 2005 07:32 PM (GMT)
damn dude, that's brilliant

dastompinata - October 14, 2005 10:08 PM (GMT)
man i gotta say those tanks are damn impressive (damn imressive), not the kinda thing i work on so its not something i see alot of here, which is why its doubly great to see it

Tank_Bby - October 14, 2005 11:32 PM (GMT)
Hmm, thats gonna be looted for sure :D
.....
.....
The idea! Not the tank, jeez ;)

Lt. Walke - October 14, 2005 11:46 PM (GMT)
FMB I am not sure as of yet hence the open numerical designation as the 107 was a long barreled 175mm cannon and the 110 was a 8 inch (203mm) howitzer. Yes I am going to make the rear recoil spade, using technics actually and a modified guard dozer blade. i hope to make it stowable as well.

The chassis was identical though. I hope to have the rest of the hull complete some time the weekend.

Lt.

Time to get back at it again.

Ps. go ahead and loot 'er but be sure to show me the results.

Lt. Walke - October 22, 2005 08:14 AM (GMT)
Ok another Progress report on the M107/M110 Spg. I have managed to mount the gun further back alower to the chassis. I have also extended the barrel using the Lemun Russ barrel to provide and muzzle break as well as a bore evacuator.

user posted image

So what do you think?

Lt.

pyro-manic - October 22, 2005 12:48 PM (GMT)
Looking good. :) The bits where the mounting joins the hull need beefing up, but you knew that. ;) I love that hull - I may just have to borrow that for my artillery (I want to do a MLRS type thing). The extended gun looks really good as well. Keep us posted!

Wittman - October 22, 2005 05:00 PM (GMT)
Not quite sure how I feel about the fume extractor part of the battlecannon being on there, I really think it would look better if it just had the BC muzzle brake.

It just looks too heavy on the end of the barrel.

Lt. Walke - October 22, 2005 05:45 PM (GMT)
I got the fume extractor idea from the M109 SPG's. with out it though I cannot extend it as far. With out major modifications to the barrel anyway.

Lt.

Lt. Walke - November 1, 2005 12:37 AM (GMT)
Should I try and incorporate a functional gun and spade that is moveable through the use of Lego?

I am toying around with using gears to force the canon to elevate and the spade lower or raise into tavel position. Also what about mounting a magnet into the travel lock and a magnet into the barrel to actually act as a travel lock when in transit. I would mount the adjustment gears in the under side or through the road wheel side hull as to be hidden.

What do you think a waiste of time or no?

Lt.

fitmanb - November 1, 2005 08:57 AM (GMT)
Lot of work required to do that but it would look sweet - only prob is would you want a load of little fingers going "wow see what this does!"

I think the barrel looks just fine.


FMB

Lt. Walke - November 3, 2005 02:20 AM (GMT)
Here is the mechanics of my idea very simple the shafts will be made from plasti tube instead of the lego shafts.
These are the pics of the gun elevator in 3 different stages.
user posted image

the 2 pics on the side are the points through which a the shafts come through the hull and the lower one is the pic of the point where it will join the Gun itself

user posted image

So what do you think of my idea?
Lt.

fitmanb - November 3, 2005 05:28 PM (GMT)
Excuse my thick ness.
I thought you were doing - gun going up makes spade come down which would be complicated.

Hydraulics on the barrel and spade would look ok and good

FMB

Oh and nice work with the Lego (tee hee)

Lt. Walke - November 3, 2005 10:02 PM (GMT)
I am going to make the 2 separate of each other as the spade would be down with a low elevation shot. But I am experimenting with the idea still. No Worries there.

Lt.

Lt. Walke - June 20, 2006 05:12 AM (GMT)
Ok OK I know it has been a while since I have updated and I haven't been as active on the board as much as I would like either. That being said I am trying to get back into the speed of things, with that in mind I decided to finally finish the elevation piston for my M107/110 and did just that. The tank is far from complete but the pistons are done so I can now plate in the bottom and begin on the spade.

Have a Look

user posted image

Comments and Critism are welcome.

Lt. Walke

Lt. Walke - June 22, 2006 11:08 PM (GMT)
Wow I guess everyone is bored of Artillery? Oh well. I will keep on trucking anyway.

I have keeping at it and I am trying to get this tank done. To that end I have finally gotten around to building that Recoil Spade that is so much part of the character of Post WWII Self Propelled artillery.

Using techniques for the protoype testing as well as for a good number of the frame work involved in the Spade itself.

Here are some Pics.
user posted image

C&C are welcome.

Lt.

Thunderer - June 23, 2006 12:58 AM (GMT)
Seriously sweet there LT. I like the gun elevation and the recoil spade... reminds me of the big 8" or so howitzer at the Fort Stewart GA museum... back when field artillery had really big guns with no air conditioners.

Great work so far and excellent use of legos... the great unsung hero of conversions everywhere.

Sleepy Kat - June 23, 2006 01:02 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lt. Walke @ Jun 22 2006, 11:08 PM)

<edit>

C&C are welcome.


The basic design looks good but it's too long.
Kinda over sized for the chassis.

Other than that it kicks.


Brimstone - June 23, 2006 03:20 AM (GMT)
Very realistic look, though I think the spade arms seem a little long. Guys like you and Greydeath and others here are a great inspiration for fumble fingered guys like me! Keep up the good work! Just a thought, maybe you could trade bits with others to cut down on the number of sprues you have to lie to your wife about buying!! :lol:

Lt. Walke - June 23, 2006 03:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sleepy Kat @ Jun 22 2006, 09:02 PM)

The basic design looks good but it's too long.
Kinda over sized for the chassis.

Other than that it kicks.

I take it you are refering to the spade like Brimstone? I knd of agree which is why the assembly is still dissasembleable. (to a certain degree anyway). I am thinking about knocking 1/4 inch off and trying that. Yes / no? Do you think that I should reinforce it even more? Like the original has? Or is it fine like that?

Lt. Walke

not_themilkybarkid - June 23, 2006 09:27 AM (GMT)
I think knocking off a bit would make it look just right. ^_^ Do it, and show us the results!

CaputMortuum - June 27, 2006 02:37 PM (GMT)
The elevation system on the gun is just gorgeous!
And so is the recoil spade, if it didn't look a bit too big. Maybe shortening the pistons would make it look more in scale with the hull. I don't have any knowledge on these things, it's just a feeling I get when I look the thing.

Anyways, incredible work! Really looking forward seeing it ready.

caput

8rad - June 27, 2006 08:47 PM (GMT)
Definitely agree with Caput there Lt. I would shorten the spade a wee bit.

Apart from that it is really great. Much better than the other one you traded to W.

8rad




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