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Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 7 2008, 09:54 AM
Now i know i made a topic already for the new version but i thought id make anouther one to remind people!

I want version 4.0 to be a big one, one that people will remember bog for, as it will be the start of what will hopefully be more versions containing more new additions and be as bug free as possible.

Thats where you, as in the community come in. If you start a game of bog and notice one tiny bug make a note of it and post it in the topic asap.
The only way i will know about the bug is if im told. Dont think "oh someone else will of seen it" cus chances are they havent. So if you want it fixed, report it.
The same goes for balence problems. I cant beleave that the mod s 98% balenced, so to help this i may see about organising a tournement for either the next version or the version after (depending how bug free).

If anyone has anything they want to see done for the next version nows the time to post it. For this reason i will not give even a rough date of release now, as im not releasing it untill ive added all new content (within reason) and fixed all reported bugs and balenced to the best of my ability.

Here are the big changes you can expect to see......

Navel warefare
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Suicide ships removed
New ship type basic arrow ship (basic battle ship, fires arrows)
New ship type war vessal (fires arrows, 2 hordes can garrison, onboard siege weapon)
Transport ships now take 3 passages
New ship type fishing boat (collects resorces)
All ships now take at least one horde of troops (except fishing boats)
Ships can now go into formations like hordes
New building dock yard (im gonna give it ago, may be removed as may be too buggy)
All ships now cost less cp

General Changes
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Hopefully new audio for heros and units currently without
New maps, version 4.0 should have, dol amroth, Ilands (whoozys water based map, ive forgoten the proper name), edoras, eastfold, westfold, haradwaith, a rhun fortress map possibly more.
Each faction will now have lots of inn units, see topic in surgestions forum for details.
New powers for heros
lots of bugs and balence fixed.
Music, i plan to remove all of eas rubbush and bring in more of the classic lotr music everyone wants.
All walls made made resistant to all but siege.
A couple of odd new units and new heros to fill in the gaps, here and there.

Lots more stuff but im not going to sit here listing it all day, im actauly gonna do it tongue.gif

So if theres anything in perticuler you want to see dont post about it hereor somewhere wheere ill see it.

Feel free to comment/discuss ect smile.gif

Posted by: {IP}king tom256 Jul 7 2008, 10:48 AM
Finally, formations for ships, thanks stelthsnake, also, talk to me on msn about the audio for voices, i may have a very good microphone which will do the job

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 7 2008, 11:33 AM
well i hope to get formations in anyway, dont see why it cant be done.

Posted by: anglia Jul 7 2008, 11:40 AM
Sounds quality my friend! That'll ding dang doo for me! smile.gif

And i always used pages and pages out of my note book when bug crushing tongue.gif i will get started on it again now my new computer is in place. wink.gif

Posted by: Whoozy Jul 7 2008, 03:03 PM
Good to see you active again! Now lets go bug killing biggrin.gif

Posted by: el kevo Jul 8 2008, 12:17 AM
Is one of those new heroes possibly the King of the Dead tongue_smile.gif

Anyways I'm glad to see this mod is still continuing. Sorry I haven't really been around but Life-Guarding really takes up huge chunks of my day. and add the fact that I'm taking a long break from BFME and RTS in general because they're starting to bore me and you get a recipe for not being active on any BFME site to really do anything but just check in and see how things are getting along.

Now, what i suggest you add:

1. Anyways personally i think upgraded walls should be resilient to everything. If you watch any movie where siege is involved not even catapults do truly any damage and that the weak spot is always the gate. So to make people build gates and not postern gates code it to where you have to have 2 gates to every one postern gate. That way people can't over-abuse the barely-destructible walls. the walls can take damage but its gonna take the longest time to pull it off

2. Perhaps find a way to sneak in heroes you have stuff for but had to cut. I refer this mostly to elven units and heroes. You already have some of your custom stuff from before they were cut and so try and put it in, don't let the work you did before be put to waste. I suggest Rohan gets most of Lotlorien. Gondor can get Elrond and Arwen as they affiliate mostly with Aragorn. SF can get the rest of Rivendell as i believe (My memory doesn't remember) quite a bit of elves were sent with Elrohir and Elladan to help Aragorn through PotD (Add KotD biggrin.gif )

Thats about it right now
-el kevo

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 8 2008, 09:19 AM
hey el kevo, long time no see smile.gif

Your first surgestion, are you refering to the walls in lotr, or in other films (you just said films). Because realisticly trebuchets would make mince meat of a wall. I do plan to make them stronger because they are too weak at the moment, but they should not be near indestructable beacase these arnt thick walls that can take anything like mt or helms deeps walls. They are built by one man in about 30 seconds lol

As foryou second surgestion, have you just lost all sence of tolkien lore? or are you just that desprite to play with elves? tongue_smile.gif

Posted by: el kevo Jul 9 2008, 03:13 AM
QUOTE (Stealthsnake @ Jul 8 2008, 01:19 AM)
hey el kevo, long time no see smile.gif

Your first surgestion, are you refering to the walls in lotr, or in other films (you just said films). Because realisticly trebuchets would make mince meat of a wall. I do plan to make them stronger because they are too weak at the moment, but they should not be near indestructable beacase these arnt thick walls that can take anything like mt or helms deeps walls. They are built by one man in about 30 seconds lol

As foryou second surgestion, have you just lost all sence of tolkien lore? or are you just that desprite to play with elves? tongue_smile.gif

Yes, very long time.

In reference to the walls I meant from not only LotR but from other movies like Troy or even Harry Potter. I guess i do see where you are coming from with one-man built walls. Really wish EA actually put in some nice thick juicy walls instead of those weak things. Well how about you could make the walls and certain buildings (especially fortress) bigger in comparison to units. I think its sad when a mountain giant or troll is the same height as a wall or a troll. Perhaps also a way to fix your wall and replace it in case it is destroyed. That should do it for walls.

To be honest I don't really give a damn about the elves. However I've been here for a while and saw your very nice work with the elves and think it would be a shame if that work ended up being a waste.

In terms of lore-breaking you know that I would only break that For giving Gandalf the ring of Power and adding the King of the Dead as a recruitable hero. However I did see your Inn outline and noticed you were gonna add AotD units and I could see you adding him as a recruitable hero for the SF (Pretty Please). I have yet to see a Truly amazing KotD. Flameguards didn't glow and Aragorn's animations aren't fluid at all. The WoA's one is glowy but doesn't really have much detail at all and still carries Aragorn's animations. Personally I think the Nazgul's animations are the best but thats just me. I hope you will now give him a chance.
-el kevo

P.S. Perhaps you should add Kratos as a hero (Now thats breaking lore with awesomeness) laugh.gif

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 9 2008, 08:32 AM
i dont have a model for the king of the dead, all the ones you have listed are being used in other mods and by modders who dont want other modders to use.

Elves wil just be inn units with rohan.

Harry potter? not sure where your thinking of in harry potter, hogwarts had the crap smashed out of it lol
As far as troy goes they did not get a chance to get near the walls as troys armys fought outside the walls not from inside.

I see your point about walls, if i had it my own way they would be like how they were in bfme1, so they are walkable. Not possible unfortunatly. These walls arnt made to be big or walkable, they are made as a basic defence, so i dont see why they should be made bigger.

Posted by: YodaWarrior Jul 9 2008, 04:00 PM
Robnkarla has a kotd model he might be willing to give you.


Forgive if you already have this working (don't have my computer with me atm tongue.gif) but I seem to remember you were having some trouble with rohan minifactions...I believe you were trying to make them all start at a certain price, and then after you buy the first the rest go more expensive, and so on. Did you get that working? Cause if you didn't, I have a solution tongue.gif

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 9 2008, 04:52 PM
its not a question of getting it working, its easy peasy, i just dont think its a good idea, as rohan will then always play out the same way, cheap stuff first, then expensive. This way each mini faction has a diferent style to suit the payers need smile.gif

Posted by: el kevo Jul 10 2008, 03:58 AM
QUOTE (Stealthsnake @ Jul 9 2008, 12:32 AM)
i dont have a model for the king of the dead, all the ones you have listed are being used in other mods and by modders who dont want other modders to use.


Actually Mordred/Argolis says he doesn't really care if anyone uses his KotD or not. He told me about how he made it and he said that since its not complicated at all that anybody could use it.

Posted by: YodaWarrior Jul 10 2008, 05:10 AM
That's not what I meant, but I told you on msn so you know now tongue.gif

Posted by: GondorFTW Jul 11 2008, 07:24 AM
Will the campaign be working soon?

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 11 2008, 08:38 AM
Probely not the next version, maybe a future one. If there is a campaign it will be a short one.

Posted by: GondorFTW Jul 12 2008, 07:52 AM
cry_smile.gif Awwwww...Thats to bad. cry_smile.gif

Posted by: anglia Jul 12 2008, 10:43 AM
QUOTE (GondorFTW @ Jul 12 2008, 08:52 AM)
cry_smile.gif Awwwww...Thats to bad. cry_smile.gif

Don't worry it will be worth the wait. wink.gif I don't think the campaign for BoG has been discussed in a while, who is supposed to be writting the campaign?

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 12 2008, 05:51 PM
Whoozy was talking about doing a short one.

Posted by: Whoozy Jul 13 2008, 07:19 AM
Me and my damned promises tongue.gif

But anyway, I'm still making slow progress so it should come sometime.

Posted by: el kevo Jul 13 2008, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (Whoozy @ Jul 12 2008, 11:19 PM)
Me and my damned promises tongue.gif

But anyway, I'm still making slow progress so it should come sometime.

You need help with writing it just give me a shout. I'll see what I can do about it. I am quite the writer actually

Posted by: WarkeepersBack Jul 16 2008, 08:12 AM
Hey been a long time since i seen this forum and anyways id like to say im back and you got my full support, gona install and see how far you lot got with out me xD (i lost my old account the email is taken but account isnt there according to log in pm if u can snake) happy.gif

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 16 2008, 09:54 AM
hey, welcome back, nice to see you around again smile.gif

Thats odd, i cant see your old acount. Whats your email address?

Posted by: WarkeepersBack Jul 16 2008, 03:47 PM
Hmm nevermind tom il just stick with this account not worth the hassel mate i need a new email adress (the one i made for this account) and if you need help on testing i was your man then il be ur man again tongue.gif

Posted by: Stealthsnake Jul 16 2008, 04:25 PM
theres no testing going on at the moment, all public betas smile.gif

Posted by: WarkeepersBack Jul 16 2008, 04:40 PM
oh well thats better il keep in touch and this is getting a bit of topic so gona stop posting here :Pnice to see it active tho after alll this time
*thumbs up*

Posted by: Ascendant Evincar Aug 15 2008, 06:18 AM
Yo I'm back! Sorry about not posting for awhile but my comp got hacked awhile ago and I've had to completely reformat!Well I'm glad the next version is out.I'll probably download as soon as I cn find my BFME ROTWK cd's.

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