Articles of Discussion:

• 1) CR Forum - Info and discussion about ideas what to add or what to change.
• 2) We are getting bigger and bigger, 60 members now :-) - How you feel about it?
• 3) Pyro and Heavy update - What it brought to you and what you expect.
• 4) Whatever else if we have time for it...

Summary:

• Info about Forum was spread
• Idea for website(with database of clans) was presented and persons with website and database creation were found, willing to help with it.
• Info about inner league was presented. Details will be soon completed and presented to Community.
• Idea of Community Servers was discussed. Detailed ideas can be posted at Forum.
• We found out that Suicide Bomber class would be teh awesome addition

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{FM} Akill {LSM}: hi
Clλssy[CP-λ]: hey
Manana! [ThTh]: hey
{FM} Akill {LSM}: so, whats to talk about today?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I will be glad if you join chat meeting, getting some info and nice chat :-)
Articles of Discussion:
1) CR Forum - info and discussion about ideas what to add or what to change.
2) We are getting bigger and bigger, 60 members now :-) - how you feel about it?
3) Pyro and Heavy update - What it brought to you and what you expect.
4) Whatever else if we have time for it...
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: And hi to everyone :-)
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{FM} Akill {LSM}: where do we start, then?
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{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well I hoped that more people will be online but well holidays
Manana! [ThTh]: yeah
Manana! [ThTh]: shall we start at number one?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I hpe someone will arrive in min or two so we can jump to point 3
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: 3) Pyro and Heavy update - What it brought to you and what you expect
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[WtFC] Kireas: hi. playing a game, but will read all XD
{FM} Akill {LSM}: in adressing 1. i dont really know of any use of the CR forum, perhaps that needs to be adressed, the advertisement and use of it
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: ok
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[TR] I Play Naked: sorry im late.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: no prob
{FM} Akill {LSM}: no worries
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{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Ah thats better
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I think I will start with one then :-D
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: 1) CR Forum - info and discussion about ideas what to add or what to change.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: So as you maybe noticed or not, TF2 CR has currently new Forum :-)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I have created it to help getting to aim of this community.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: i hadnt noticed lol
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Its located here http://z11.invisionfree.com/TF2_CR
Manana! [ThTh]: it looks pretty nice, well organized
{FM} Akill {LSM}: then perhaps as i mentioned, it should be broadcasted
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: cool
Manana! [ThTh]: i might have to sign up
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: and even its not finished yet, I hope I will sort most of things soon
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{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: and of course I tell you about because I would like you to join here
[TR] I Play Naked: From what ive seen the short time i have been part of this comunity
[TR] I Play Naked: i am very impressed.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: i think the best way forward for it is for everyon3e to sign up then, and through word of mouth create awareness of its existance and purpose
[TR] I Play Naked: The forum seems good, well oprganised.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Thk :-)
[TR] I Play Naked: organised*
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{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: also if anyone of you or persons from your clans etc would posses knowledge and will to help in bulding website, I would be very grateful
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: sry missed a bit. 'sup`?
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: gonna eat now too *hungry*
Manana! [ThTh]: at one point we had a website hosted by clanservers/gameservers
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: well hosting is not problem, rather more the actual creations
Manana! [ThTh]: it came with a tool that automatically installed a variety of applications on the website
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: ah I see
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: still skilled persons would be great addition
Manana! [ThTh]: so you selected PHPBB, and it just installed it
[TR] I Play Naked: I can help with the web design.
[*Tank*] YETI: I used to work as a website developer for some time, although i never designed a site, only the technical part, so maybe i can help
Manana! [ThTh]: I know nothing about website operation outside of that, sorry
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: i can manage the tf2 servers pretty good, hlsw/sourcemod, whatever
Manana! [ThTh]: I do servers well though.
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: bbl, eating
[TR] I Play Naked: i know its not much but i have experiance with Dreamweaver and networking.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: as well as perons which have knowledge of dabase creation. Since having nice post about all clans is nice but impracticle for larger number of members
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: *persons
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: check out our site
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: www.gamingmasters.co.uk
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: it was coded 100% from scratch
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: with a mysql backend
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: and php frontend
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: all 100% custom
Manana! [ThTh]: oh sweet
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Yeah
[TR] I Play Naked: good job.
[*Tank*] YETI: yeha pretty nice site
{FM} Akill {LSM}: ive done work with php and mysql also
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well I think if some of you are willing to help then I will create part of forum dedicated to this topic with idea how would I and you imagine new website
{FM} Akill {LSM}: not so much with managing database's, but connecting and displaying data from them
[TR] I Play Naked: That sounds like an idea
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: It doesnt need to be something super uber extra, just something I could drop 5-6 info lines so everyone could easily lis tthem
[*Tank*] YETI: I used to work with DB2 database, not with mysql, but i don't thing that's too big a problem
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{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: OK, seems we are done with point one then :-)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: and again I remind you to register at forum :-)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: now to point 2
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: 2) We are getting bigger and bigger, 60 members now :-) - how you feel about it?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: in fact 63
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: :-D
[TR] I Play Naked: Well, i think its great makes finding scrims and other teams just so much easier.
Manana! [ThTh]: Good. I think its excellent to have a community of clan leaders. makes organizing interclan events easier.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: So what you think? I must first of all thk to all of you for staying with community, even in time I was not able to do much during uni exams.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: the range of members is great
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: And growing :-D
{FM} Akill {LSM}: this means we have at least 30 clans part of the group now?
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: restrict to clans that have active members only
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: 42 actually
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: :-D
[TR] I Play Naked: brilliant .
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: no rookie clans
{FM} Akill {LSM}: i think, as a tribute to the communities positive effects
Manana! [ThTh]: we're a rookie clan =P
{FM} Akill {LSM}: if some resolution of all the events that transpire from this community, are recorded on the forum
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: jk
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Dont worry, I am currently checking clans list
Manana! [ThTh]: i have to go though
Manana! [ThTh]: peace
{FM} Akill {LSM}: to have evidence of achievements
[TR] I Play Naked: cya
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: bye
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: bye bye :-§)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: :-)
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{FM} Akill {LSM}: even to boast and prove our communities purpose. to increase reliance etc.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: found 2 members who had to be kicked since their clan ended
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[GL] Semerus playing CoH: hello
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: hi :-)
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[GL] Semerus playing CoH: so...
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Surely I will keep record at forum about this chat.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Currently at point
2) We are getting bigger and bigger, 60 members now :-) - how you feel about it?
[GL] Semerus playing CoH: its good
[GL] Semerus playing CoH: as it leads to more clan meetings
{FM} Akill {LSM}: as 'minutes'yes?
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-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: good
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: sorry guys, was afk
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: no prob
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: so whats going on
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Currenly we are talking about how big is community atm and how you feel about it
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: ahh
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: btw if you noticed I raised limit of members per clan to 3.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: since larger clans had bit problem to get in so small limit of 2.
[GL] Semerus: surely you should have the member limit on the size of the clan
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: but no worry 3 is final
[GL] Semerus: like with gm their clan is large so they need more but like with crit rocket they have a small clan so they should only really nee one person
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: well one thing I feel that the community deserves is more organized matches (and yes I did notice that). Because we are representing our clans in "the world" of tf2, we need to brainstorm and find more things that we can do as a team, both entertainment wise and backend wise
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well I speak about limit for how many clan representatives can clan have in this community
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: what do you guys think about that
[GL] Semerus: i rekon we should
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well to to first thing, I dont want to get into situatuins of valuing if clan is big enough to have 2 representatives or 3 or 1. And after all only small number of clans uses all 3 clan representatives.
[TR] I Play Naked: I agree with Swamp
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: and to second thing
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: i agree mostly what i understood
[TR] I Play Naked: Ide say 2 is more than enough..
[TR] I Play Naked: there is no need for more that 2 representatives in this group no matter what size the clan is.
[GL] Semerus: what about clans with different squads like cp
[GL] Semerus: surely they need at lest 1 per suqad
[TR] I Play Naked: ide agree with that.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: maybe get a server where all the clans can get together and play against eachother, with a spectator channel where people can watch. that way we can organize games and play against eachother. Due to the fact that i is virtually 40 clans using one server, I think It will be filled quickly and used a lot, as well as fun to spectate - Imagine - weekend clan vs clan matches - sign up now to be one of the random joiners and play on either side in game while 50 people watch from spectator channels - that would be fun and adding something to the cmmunity
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: I already invited a 3rd GM leader to the group is that ok?
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: jezus so much to read
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I came to idea that we could make some kind of clan servers visits. I mean say this day we shall visit that clan server and meet there with our clan members to see how it works there and meet other clan members from other clans
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: guys keep it short and sweet, easier to understand and to say our opinions
[GL] Semerus: i think gm should have 3 as they have 3 squads
[GL] Semerus: if they had 4 squsds 4 members
[GL] Semerus: my clan is small so i am the only one
[GL] Semerus: as no one else really needs to join
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: for now yes
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: Shadow can u keep it 3 max respresentatives? Just in case not all can be online
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: I agree, but maybe get CL a 24 player server
[GL] Semerus: defionatley
[GL] Semerus: how are we going to fund that
[*Tank*] YETI: Server is probably a good idea
[GL] Semerus: as a good one would cost £18
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: we could all put donations to it, someone would need to supply the server but we could paypal them the money at times
[TR] I Play Naked: well whats a £18 split 40 ways?
[TR] I Play Naked:
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: GM can host a server for a small monthly fee
[GL] Semerus: my clan server is realy full
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: we have 2 quad core servers
[GL] Semerus: i can organise that to be a central place
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: or we could get someone to host us a dedicated, I can help others set that up
[GL] Semerus: how much would gm chargE?
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[GL] Semerus: for a 24 man
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: £20 a month for £24 slots
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well limit of members will stay at 3 atm. However if a lot of members would feel agaist it, it can be changed. Also note that 4 or more members per clan will just not happen. Its due to other reasons I will present later.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: hehehe bargaining time
[GL] Semerus: but you can get it for cheaper elsewhere
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: oh and as well I feel we need a site, and not just a frum
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: *forum
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: semerus link it then
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Also to that servers, dont forget we as community have A LOT OF SERVERS
[GL] Semerus: although i take it yours is higher quality?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: people are reluctent to sign up
[*Tank*] YETI: we also have a ping problem there are clans from australia and north america and europe, where can we put a server so that the ping will be good for eeveryone
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: maube a simple site with 4 pages
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: that should do i
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: how about london or new york
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: those are sort of centeral
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: our servers are located near London
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: australia stil have a problem than
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: or if we find a server provider in the center of the atlantic thats good too
[GL] Semerus: dark immortal is a good coder isnt he...
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: but yes communtiy servers sounds cool
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: yes he is an expert
[GL] Semerus: maybe he could do the site
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: I doubt he will do it frere
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: free*
[GL] Semerus: kk
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I just wanted to remind that there are clan servers mostly empty for days
[GL] Semerus: we need to set up a way to donate money
[TR] I Play Naked: TR server is generally always empty
[TR] I Play Naked: accept for trainign and matches. but its only 18slots
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک: ours mostly too
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: and that leads us to bonus point not mentioned :-D
[*Tank*] YETI: clan servers are good, but they cant really be used for community purposees
[GL] Semerus: gl's is 24 man and mostly empty
[GL] Semerus: k
[TR] I Play Naked: could we not have a rotar?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: ours are relativley busy
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: GM has 10+ tf2 servers and mostly full
{FM} Akill {LSM}: perhaps the discussion is going beyond the scope or the purpose for this meeting?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I plan inner league for this community :-D
{FM} Akill {LSM}: but if we are fueling ideas-
[GL] Semerus: core would we kinda be able to do a package deal, server hosting and awebsite hosting and coding
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: I will have to ask Dark
[GL] Semerus: k
[TR] I Play Naked: we have slowly gone of track here
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: anyone here 20 and above?
{FM} Akill {LSM}: not quite-
[*Tank*] YETI: u mean age?
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: no I meant lightyears
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: back on it
[*Tank*] YETI: I'm 23
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: sounds good
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: good good
[*Tank*] YETI: if you mean lightyears of course)
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: If you are below 18 then it's not worth asking about prices
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: so mainly things we need - a server, a site, and more members
{FM} Akill {LSM}: i have an idea to propose to the CR, however i think all these new basics should be solid before something im thinking should be done, if you remind me at a later date i can discuss it
{FM} Akill {LSM}: brb
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: yeah so lets end talk about communtiy severs for now sincce we all need to think about morey capabilites, also I will make post on forum so you can put there your larger ideas
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: alrite
[GL] Semerus: how many servers do we want
[GL] Semerus: ?
[GL] Semerus: just the one?
[*Tank*] YETI: 2 probably
[GL] Semerus: kk
[GL] Semerus: london and america?
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido: it doesn't really matter about location, what is important is good routing
[*Tank*] YETI: if there's a match and one will be used for it everyone can play oon the other
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I think thats question to another discusion. Yeah more aspects must be thought out. Like we are GLOBAL COMMUNITY
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: now about the site, it would need 4 pages - Events, Clan Info, Server, and Forum (as well as home but thats not a problem)
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: take the rdc site for example
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: www.therdclan.clanteam.com
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: essential pages
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: with no un-needed extras
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: save the media page
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: but thats epic
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: sure thing :-)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: but now I would like to get to point that was bit skipped in posts.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: As I said before, I plan inner league and for this reason I would welcome if you can make post at forum if you can host matches of this league
[TR] I Play Naked: Sounds awesome.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: let me finish up first lol - events to tell when events for the community are heppening, clan info like on the forum page, sorted and more, server to check the TF2 CL server's, and Forum for Chattin it up
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Rules etc are still under creating but that wont take much lond to finish
[GM'X] CORE @ aburrido has changed their name to [GM'X] CORE.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: cool
[TR] I Play Naked: Great!
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: sounds good
[GL] Semerus: awesome
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: surely does :-)
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Now just make it more then words :-D
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: leagues - we'd need a calander to organize matches
[TR] I Play Naked: How much of a time scale is being set to get all this done?.
[GL] Semerus: as soon as possible
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: aka like a forum calander, except on the events page, html embedded
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: with not birthdays but upcoming matches and clan server events
[TR] I Play Naked: Agreed.
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: if you dont have an irc chan yet, "tf2.clans" on qnet should be doable when we idle long enough
[GL] Semerus: so how will the league be formed?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: maybe that any clan leader with a password can edit
[GL] Semerus: and will cp get to enter all of its squads or just one team?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: hmm
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: guys, we dont need to discuss details, thats for another time :-D I know some of you are lot for it and so but all at right time.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: id vote selected teams
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: someone better be taking these ideas down xD
[GL] Semerus: the thing is the different squads are treated as different clans
[GL] Semerus: so it is a bit harsh to make them 1 clan
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I will present you with details once I complete them and you can then post your ideas about it, questions and what to change etc.
[TR] I Play Naked: Brilliant.
[GM'X] CORE: k.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: gd gd
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Since this is mainly chat in general I would like not to run into details since we cant solve anything atm :-D
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[GM'X] CORE: chat over now?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Now to point 3
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: something bit offtopiv
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: 3) Pyro and Heavy update - What it brought to you and what you expect.
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: lolz
[*Tank*] YETI: yeah details would be better on forum
[GL] Semerus: fucking pyro spam
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: it brought many mad pyros
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: pyro - over. Powered.
[GM'X] CORE: pyro update didnt bother me
[GL] Semerus: the new weapos shouldnt be allowed in matches
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Cry for spies
[GM'X] CORE: the weapons are fine
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: heavy- GAH NOOB HEAVY SPAM
[GM'X] CORE: balanced
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I like air push, its great and almost noone can use it properly
[TR] I Play Naked: Pyro went from being underpowerd to a decent force. although i dont think pyros should be allowed new weapons in matches
[GL] Semerus: they should have given the heavy a chainsaw instead of iron knucles
[GL] Semerus: like gears of war style
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: they should work on a working tf_weapon_criticals cvar
[*Tank*] YETI: pyro wasn't playable before the update, now it is, I think it's good
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: until valve releases updates for all characters and tweaks them all to balance out, the game is a tad overpowered now
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: main leagues allowed the unlocks though
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: what?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: lol
[GL] Semerus: it jusr pisess me off
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: what are the new heavy weapons
[GL] Semerus: iron knucles and we dont know the rest
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: ahh
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Iron knucles?
[GL] Semerus: i heard they wer
[GL] Semerus: e
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: like brass knuckles
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Havent heard of it
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: [GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: they should work on a working tf_weapon_criticals cvar
means the KK should work on crits off-servers, or there should be another option to fully disable them. BB is a bit OP
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: nor have O
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: *I
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: agreed
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: BB = Too cheap for league games
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: well
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well depends on class limits
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: have you seen *any* good team using a Pyro
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: KK = powerful enough not to OP anyone
[GL] Semerus: what is the command to turn friendly fire on?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: with one pyro if team is not blind he can easily manage
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: i love to quote Extremer here: "Pyro is a shit class and will never be in comp play. End of story"
[GL] Semerus: out of intresr
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: my idea
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: just brainstorming
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: in league matches
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: @Sem: mp_friendlyfire 1, but only hitscan/melee/explosives. Fire doesnt work
[GL] Semerus: kk
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well I have to say Pryo is eycelent defender one added to sentry
[GL] Semerus: thanks
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: just vanilla tf2. no new weapons - back when it was all balanced
[*Tank*] YETI: sorry i need to go now bb all
[GL] Semerus: thanlks wabi
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: *once
[TR] I Play Naked: vya
[TR] I Play Naked: cya
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: :S no new weps?
[GL] Semerus: cya
[*Tank*] YETI left chat.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: back
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: the only reason valve added the maps and achievements was to increase lastability and get more to play
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: not to make the game easier and more accessable
{FM} Akill {LSM}: agreed
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: well, they could have given the medic the blood sucker before
[GL] Semerus: i wish they made another class
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: Vanilla Tf2 is best for comp games
Saturos [CP-λ] entered chat.
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: the noob
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY:
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: What would that be?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: aka no new weapons
[GL] Semerus: which was kinda like an assult rifle class
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: lol
Saturos [CP-λ]: Sorry im late!
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: civ heavy ftw
[GL] Semerus: hey satuors
{FM} Akill {LSM}: hi
Saturos [CP-λ]: Anything important going on, then?
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Well I heard somewhere the 10th class will be maybe added but I cant imagine that
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: the new class would be named "teh noob" and would have a minigun which fired crit rockets
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY:
{FM} Akill {LSM}: lol
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: lol
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: lol
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: 9 classes are just fine
{FM} Akill {LSM}: and had a stab proof vest
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: Teh Noob
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: ye
[GL] Semerus: lol
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: All wall crawler
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: and a 9m thick steel helmet
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY:
[GL] Semerus: ;p
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: just armour
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: like a tank.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: some people, mainly critics, argued the same 9 classes, no matter how obviously differeant they played from TFC, was a joke
{FM} Akill {LSM}: however valve spent long enough making the game balanced
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: "The Suicide Bomber" - kills themselves, can take out ubers
{FM} Akill {LSM}: they spent several years getting the play factor and balance correct
{FM} Akill {LSM}: it blew my mind they are willing to sacrafice that to these unlocks
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: yeah
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: agreed
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: thats true
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: seriosuly
{FM} Akill {LSM}: i mean, as they progress through the unlocks. its LARGLY untested
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: wow, 12 suicide bombers, Al Kaida arrvies
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: should of just added less achievements, meet the _____ vids, and maps
{FM} Akill {LSM}: they dont KNOW how the game will work when all 9 classes have updates, because they havnt decided it yet
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: ALLAAH
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: lol
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: DURKA DURKA... AHAMAD JIHAD!
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I mean imagine whole team of suicide bombers
[GL] Semerus: lol
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: team america ftw
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: i'd totally play SB.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: yeh same
-=[BHDc]=- کnikkel√iک left chat.
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: b00mz
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: spy should have a barrel disguise
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: or a box like from MGS
{FM} Akill {LSM}: lol
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: one second a barrel is by a box
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: next its behind you
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I would love if spy could disguise as sentry :-D
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: hehehe
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: or dispensor
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Imagine that
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: brb lunch
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: lol
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: Killed by dispensor
{FM} Akill {LSM}: on a more serious note, are we ready to rap up a conclusion here?
[TR] I Play Naked: well guys
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: you'd get crit wrenched in your disguise
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY:
[TR] I Play Naked: yeah
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: dispenser's sapping my... umm.. dispenser?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: garotte is a good idea
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: so is magnetic sapper
{FM} Akill {LSM}: no
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: LOL
{FM} Akill {LSM}: they are both rubbish useless ideaw
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: seen the fake spy thing
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: its lol
[GM'X] CORE left chat.
[GL] Semerus: the spy should have a shrienken
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: be back in a bit anyway
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: LOL
{FM} Akill {LSM}: ill proove it if u wish, and if we have finished the meeting?
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: and a grappelling hook
[TR] I Play Naked: im off guys
[TR] I Play Naked: cya later
[TR] I Play Naked: good talking
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: same here
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: bye bye
[TR] I Play Naked left chat.
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: gd meeting, lot covered
[GL] Semerus: so is this like the end?
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY: teh end.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: sure we are at fun point
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: yep
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: look it over
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: all the ideas here
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: gd stuff lets put it into action
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: glad to take part
[GL] Semerus: anyway good meeting
[GL] Semerus: cya later
[GL] Semerus left chat.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I will put it on forum,once we move away
{FM} Akill {LSM}: bye guys
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: alrite
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: and we'll work on the site soon
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: cya
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: bye
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: ttys, organize another chat for sometime next week
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: or a follow up
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: byw
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing: *bye
-={RDC}=- Swamp7hing left chat.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I will go fro drink or die from weather...
{FM} Akill {LSM}: its hot, shadow?
[GM'Ҳ]waebi @ITALY left chat.
{FM} Akill {LSM}: the sun diminished your exsistance?
Saturos [CP-λ] left chat.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: I still live
[GFG]Fndr.-|BlaZe|- entered chat.
{FM} Lord Shadow {CL}: even its hard lol