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I don't suppose anyone can do calculus?
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Alright, well it's not that much help now since I had the homework quiz today, but it's good practice. Hopefully you'll know the notation.
So the given is that there's a differential equation:
Then it asks you to calculate the slope at the point (0,3). So you get this:
| QUOTE | dy/dx=-(0)/2(3)
=0/6
=0 |
So the slope at (0,3) is zero. Fantastic.
Then it says "assume that the curve is linear between x=0 and x=0.5." Well we know that at x=0 the slope is zero, because at (0,3) the slope is zero. And I assume that when it says the curve is linear between those two points, it means the slope stays the same between those two points. Am I right?
Then it asks to calculate the y-value when x=0.5. That's what I don't get. I don't know the slope AT x=0.5, only BETWEEN x=0 and x=0.5. So then I'd end up with this:
With no way to solve for y. I was thinking I could find the particular solution of the graph that goes through (0,3) and then somehow turn that around, but I think I tried that and something went wrong. I might've made a mistake though.
Does that make sense, Crow?
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Well but that's the thing. If dy/dx (or f'(x), whatever you want to call it) represents the slope at a given point, the slope CAN'T be zero at x=0.5, because the numerator will be nonzero and no matter what the denominator is (which depends on the y-value) the slope will always either be a constant or undefined (the latter of which I know it isn't, since the graph isn't vertical at that point).
| QUOTE | Ok the first differentiation always gives you the slope at a particular place of the original graphic. So if you get a 0 for the x-value it means that the graphic at the particular y-value has no slope.....ugh sorry but I really don't get your notation. Why is the x and y value on the same side of the equoation? DOesn't it have to be something like? Since if you have 2 variables in one equoation you could never solve it. |
They're on the same side because it's a differential equation. They don't have to be separated. The only way to solve for y is through a lot of integration.
As a note, integ() means I'm taking the integral and sqrt() means I'm taking the square root. Also, +/- is "plus or minus."
| QUOTE | dy/dx=-x/2y
2y(dy/dx)=-x
2ydy=-xdx
integ(2ydy)=integ(-xdx)
(2y^2)/2=(-x^2)/2+c
y^2=(-x^2)/2+c
y=+/-sqrt((-x^2)/2+c) |
Which looks decidedly funky.
The variable c represents the constant that the solution could differ by, so you have to find the constant. To do that you just use whatever point they gave you, which is (0,3). Also, I'm taking the negative answer of the root because the graph is in quadrant IV.
| QUOTE | 3=-sqrt(0+c)
3=-sqrt©
-3=sqrt©
c=(-3)^2
c=9 |
Okay, so that makes our particular equation:
| QUOTE | | y=-sqrt((-x^2)/2+9) |
Umm...oh fuck I might have done it. So then does that mean that I just put 0.5 in for x in that equation?
EDIT: Fucking Invisionfree. The copyright symbol is c in parentheses XD
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