sorry neh buka page baru soal IJUKSA, soalnya there is something that really disturb me bout this drama..........

aku suka sih waktu ngeliat screencrabsx, but there were poople yang ngomong yak gini soal Ijuksa
1. MISA WENT BETTER THAN IJUKSA
2. THE CINEMATOGRAPHY IS EXCELENT BUT THE PLOT..........THEY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION ON IT
3. BI ACTING IS SUPERB BUT THE STORY SUCK
4. IJUKSA LOOSE SOMETHING IN IT
5. IJUKSA IS NOT CLEAR IN CLARIFYING THE IDEA OF THE STORY
6. DJ AND MG SEEMED TO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BOK GU AT THE END
7. THEY PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION ON THE CHARACTER OF KANG BOK GU THAN THE STORY ITSELF
8. IN 1 TO 10 IJUKSA IS 10 FOR BI'S ACTING, 10 FOR CINEMATOGRAPHY, 9 FOR CLIMAX, 4 FOR THE PLOT

itu yg kubaca dibeberapa page. agak ngeri sih and jadi........doubt IJUKSA, even teteh Roes dah bilang klo IJUKSA lebih bgs dari Sangdoo, but...........i need other people opinions (sorry teteh Roes!).
soalnya belum nonton sih, jadi gak tau apa apa (oon getu deh)

please help me yah................ :(

wah susah juga yach... mendingan jangan dengerin omongan orang laen bisa gila ntar hehehehe :P
mendingan loe nonton IJUKSA aja dulu.... soalnya kan pendapat orang beda2.... ada yang suka ada yang nggak...
kalo to be honest sih gue suka sama IJUKSA actingnya Bi wuihhh dua jempol deh hahaha bener2 udah kemajuan banget dr jaman sangdoo and full house...
tp gue sendiri gak bisa ngebandingin drama IJUKSA sama sangdoo ato FH soalnya kan ceritanya beda2... kalo sama Misa mungkin ada kali cinematographynya yang mirip2 dikit pan yang nulis ceritanya and PD-nya sama.... ;) tp cerita sih beda.
kalo menurut gue sih... I wished that there was more to IJUKSA... even gue udah selese nonton gue cuman ngerasa masih ada yang "kurang" tp itu cuman opini gue doang loh... tp aktingnya mas Bi bener2 ok deh.... sama sekali nggak mengecewakan.... gue cuman kecewa dikit sama penulisnya :P

setuju sma shari...
mendingan lo nonton dulu aja deh, aqulia... n then decide sendiri kaya gimana film ini... drpd lo denger2 kata orang ntar lo terkontaminasi sma opini2 orang ituh...
gue sendiri sih, menikmati nonton IJUKSA ini, even br ampe episode 9 (hehehhe... malu... nihh..)
so... lo tonton aja dulu...

n yup...!!! all thumbs up tu akting Bi!!! :heart:

wah klo diriku mah... I'm IJUKSA 100% . I am totally a fan of it.. mulai dr plot, chemistry, dialogue, even the ending.. I totally love it. Ok, some says, the writer didn't have to kill him, but for me.. when I digged in BG's personality and I just felt, he was that kind of person.. susah memaafkan diri sendiri, sampe akhirnya berakhir spt itu, not purposely died but more to fatique/freezing cold (adegan terakhir, he gave all his heat to his loved one, sampe akhirnya he died first, baru ES nyusul...... ) ... emang aku banyak denger begini/tu... anyway... terus terang, I just don't get it malah, bec. pour moi.. it's just IT gitu.. drama yg bikin diriku tersedih2.. berhari2.. and keinget the converstaion they had (BG/ES). I'm NOT into MISA.. even semua org suka.. tp ya itu tadi.. selera bo'.. di IJUKSA, I enjoyed watching BG's personality complexity - yg love-hate stuff... soal DJ, justru, ini lbh menekankan what kind of a person BG was... BG tuh took gratefulness to the unreachable level of normal ppl deh kyknya... being grateful for him, was a non-stop gesture.... this thing was also emphasized by BG's attitude towards his bro. He couldn't forgive himself from so-called 'taking' his brother's lover krn dia sangat being so thankful for his bro, for being his big bro all this time....and then juga ke DJ, yg bbrp waktu sempet affected BG's life kan....while JS, bisa dibilang as an opener of the whole tragedy... MG for being so weak, makanya pas denger ES/.JS thing, terjun.. dlsb dlsb... anyway aku justru suka JS di akhri2 cerita, he came to his senses.. didn't become such an evil person or anything...while ES, a newcomer to BG's life, he felt that she could go on without him..he didn'tt feel indebted to her.. even he made her life miserable, tp not out of gratitude... that's BG was... a pity but an interesting character for me... ok de.. panjang bo'... bener NONTON and judge for yourself... klo aku dengerin org mah, bisa2 aku gak nonton Full House lah... mata sipit, udh gitu yg bilang FH overrated jg ada... weleh2... rugiiiiii donggg.....:D

salam freinds..........

it's me Mesia, sudah lama tidak berkunjung coz of work. wah aquila u're really wonder bout IJUKSA ya?
i'll let you know one thing first.........
IJUKSA was more heavy drama
FULL HOUSE was funny, tearjearking drama
SANGDOO was very inspirational drama
from that u can judge urself how's the three

i like IJUKSA better than MISA, not coz BI is in it, but coz it was awesome in everything.
u must trust me, i have a good eye on a story, he he he,

The plot sangat bagus, it makes ur brain want to jump out of its place cos it keeps making u thinking and thingking. i called the plot Memory yg terputus. don't ask me what is that. coz it needs long time to explain.
just watch it, and if u think u're stuck in the middle, seemed like u're going no where with IJUKSA. that's it, suck indeed but it was briliant. i didn't know how the writer could possibly think that kind of plot.

BI's acting, i never doubt him since i watched Sangdoo.
IJUKSA lose something in it? True, but that losing thing make it worth watching. u need a lot more explanation after watching it, why BG doing this thing and that. IJUKSA is hanging in the air, i love it the way it is.
like VITA wrote 'the complexity of BG character'. u could not find it in another Korean drama, coz they were as clear as fresh water. BG was as blur as the dirtiest water u could find, but guess what, when u jump in it u will find a treasure and understand why.
overal, IJUKSA is not to KNOW HOW but to UNDERSTAND WHY

ending, normaly i don't like the ending like the character commit suicide, but with IJUKSA,
BG is just want to sleep, since nobody calling out his name (DJ let go her hands out of him). how warm is that protecting the one he loves, then he forget he should wake up. BG just simply wants to sleep, but sleep here means eternal sleep (i guess)

Seperti legenda cinta yang selalu dibicarakan semua orang...saat angin utara berhembus pelan, sepasang kekasih tertidur dalm mimpi panjang mereka di kaki bukit yang bersalju. Lalu orang-orang bertanya "apa yang terjadi dengan mereka? apakah mereka mati?" entahlah, tidak ada yang pernah tahu. Cobalah duduk di kaki bukit itu saat salju turun, maka angin utara yang sama akan menceritakan kisah tentang mereka padamu.
(that's the prose for IJUKSA ending)

so is that helping u? hope so
it's great production

From Mesia with Love

achhh Mesia, long time no see.. you explained it better than me.. he he he..

baru nemu neehh kata2....Ijuksa is not TO KNOW HOW, but TO UNDERSTAND WHY... wahhh cucok bener tuh...

and I also thought the writer is brilliant., ok I did complain about her but then.. after finishing Ijuksa.. I just thought to myself...she has that thing yg bikin kita mikir.. o iya ya... ooo begini/tu ya....... . I challenge ppl yg tadinya bilang, I know exactly how the story unflolds.. when they stopped watching midways.. jita2kin palaku deh, klo bener2 they can figure it out correctly and perfectly, bec. in fact we couldn't .. we assume begini/tu, ternyata salah.. bukan begitchu?


I remember in SD thread, I posted that I kinda sebal with the writer.. .. I know a part of me, still being sebal with her.. krn selalu memandang sesuatu dr sisi gelap, but then again, when I think about it.. she wrote something so well, sampe aku bisa menyelami BG's inner emotion/feeling/turmoil .... kyknya hebring pisan ya.. prob. emang pasarnya si writer ini, yg model2 diriku ya.. hobi menelaah karakter... :D

mesia... analisa km baguss banget.. gw sampe terbawa bacanya...

gw juga sampe skrg msh blm ngerti.. msh bertanya2... knp BG ga mempertahankan cintanya dia ke ES.. tp spt mba Vita blg.. kl BG is a complicated character... it's true...

but in the end he died 4 ES... and it's so romantic 4 me... at least he died together...

gw suka bgt dgn petikan kata2 mesia :

"Seperti legenda cinta yang selalu dibicarakan semua orang...saat angin utara berhembus pelan, sepasang kekasih tertidur dalm mimpi panjang mereka di kaki bukit yang bersalju. Lalu orang-orang bertanya "apa yang terjadi dengan mereka? apakah mereka mati?" entahlah, tidak ada yang pernah tahu. Cobalah duduk di kaki bukit itu saat salju turun, maka angin utara yang sama akan menceritakan kisah tentang mereka padamu."
(that's the prose for IJUKSA ending)

Ijuksa emang lain dr crita2 K-drama umumnya... it's a unique storyline with a unique character...

yah. kalo mo jujur, ijuksa itu:
1. jelek.
2. gak tau, jalan ceritanya rada2 gak jelas..

bisa dilihat kok drama ini bgs ato ngga dari hasil ratingnya yg gak bagus dan tidak suksesnya ijuksa di kbs drama awards 2005..

yah. tapi g tetep dukung bi. :)

ehemmm Citra... do you think rating indicate everything.. don't think sooo.. :D ... ada yg namanya SELERA.. so even 1 particular drama got high rating.. it doesn't necessarily grip your heart kan... so Aquila, won't hurt you to see it yourself toh? :)

contoh lain...misalnya Dae Jang Gum, menang kan taun lalu (best drama, highest rating) .. but I guess, it's NOT also for ALL ppl .. it's periodic drama... even aku sukaaa, ceritanya menarik ... . kyk Oshin...

wah komentarnya ok 2 .. ada yang menelaah dalam ada yang berani bilang gak bagus walau tetep ngedukung bi .. kalau aku sendiri .. dasar si cinderella complex tea .. happy ending minded .. jadi kadang suka gak terima .. kalau sad ending .. tapi juga bisa aja aku interpretasiin sendiri .. (tutup mata ama cerita pembuat naskahnya) .. anggep aja mereka akhirnya cuma tidur dan kedinginan di salju .. dan belum mati ..he-he-he

:P wah same to me mirabi, g jg msh blum bs trima tuh klau sad ending gt, tp at least they die together lah...still

i am agree ama vita, smua cm maslah selera aja kok! emang ironis ya, kok ratingnya bs trun gt, pdhl buat kt2 yg bs mamahami drama ini betul2 bgus!

mgkin sbagian besar org lbh suka n fun ama drama ringan type2 FH gt ya, apalgi sbelum ini kan Bi mulai terkenal bgt sjak FH, mgkin aja mrk blum bs trima bi meranin karakter yg rumit kyk gt, but ampe skarng sih, for me KBG is the best character d antara smua character yg d peranin ama Bi...

hehehe tapi se'enggaknya Daejanggeum msh ada nilai yg bisa diambil. Ngajarin untuk survive. Yaaah.. mang kali ini dramanya rain krg gtu bgs de.. byk jg kok yg kecewa dgn drama kali ini..termasuk g..

Mau ikutan nih akhirnya.....kasih komentar....!

In my opinion, .....

Yg kusuka dari Ijuksa .....
1. Tentu karena ada Rain.....penampilannya OK trus aktingnya bagus sekali rasanya hampir semua ekspresi dia pas.
2. BG & DJ...... lebih banyak variasi nya : jengkel (ama aksen & tingkah lakunya DJ) , marah (DJ ngusir BG) , lucu (BG nyanyikan pang2), mengharukan (urusan 'scar'nya DJ), kasihan (nga cinta tapi cuman grateful aja), senang (akhirnya DJ bisa sadar & support BG) bercampur jadi satu. Mixed feelings ini yang mbuat aku senang ama BG & DJ.

Yg [COLOR=red]kurang [COLOR=red] kusuka :
Ceritanya -- menurutku nga 'fresh' ttg balas dendam terus jatuh cinta (sudah sering I nonton drama tema kaya begini zaman dahulu); tapi untungnya, masih okay karena "dikemas" ama karakter BG yang complicated.

Yg [COLOR=red]nga [COLOR=red]kusuka :
1. Penampilan SMA (dandanan & gaya rambut nga memancarkan aktris top) salah satu contoh: waktu SMA mau ketemuan ama DJ & MS di cafe itu terus BG naik mobil ngikuti dari belakang.....SMA sekilas kayak pake helm ....padahal itu topi loh.... !!! Baju2 SMA juga nga stylish!
2. SMA-Bi kurang pas kalo lama2 dilihat...... (so sorry....ya bagi yg seneng....tapi ini kan selera aja)..... SMA mbuat Bi semakin keliatan tirus wajahnya.

Okay, that's all.....!!! :lol:

wah... g mlh suka tuh ama SMA! i like her a lot sejak ijuksa, i think she perfect for the character n they look cute together(selera emang beda2 ya! :rolleyes: )

g smpt jg bc d bebrapa forum, bnyk jg lho yg gak suka ama SMA, kbnykan lbh sk Bi ama SHG ya..., tp comment2nya bnyk yg agak2 ksar gt deh! g jdnya sympati jg tuh ama SMA....

walah rame amat yagh debatnya. Gw pribadi juga kurang suka ma ijuksa kynya ni film ko pesimis bgt seh knapa BG n ESnya ko ky sengaja dibuat mati gitu ajah ga ada usaha buat survive dulu kek. Trus si writer kynya maksain juga endingnya agak didramatisir. SMA lucu seh kt gw tapi chemistry nya ko kalah yagh sama Bi-kyo ato bi-GHJ. Aku malah lebih suka endingnya SD eventhough mati juga tapi kesannya lebih heroic gituh. ni kok Ijuksa ky mati sia2 gitu seh padahal kan sebenernya klo ES n BG mo maapin diri sendiri mrk bisa get 2gether at the end n si MG juga udah ngasih restu ke mereka bedua. tapi gw tetep dukung bi deh. AZA FIGHTING moga2 serian yg selanjutnya even better than the last one

gw mlh suka loh sm BI_SMA...

mnrt gw... SMA cute... dan overall... IJUKSA bagus...

emang ga smua org bisa trima ending yg seperti itu, karena biasa terbuai dgn ending2 cinderella story, tp storylinenya okeh kok...

iya..sama Von... I thought ES tuh baek bgt jadi org.. even mau pas "dimanfaatkan" sama nyokap tirinya to help her out (to marry JS).. ttp mau.. .. kyknya orgnya gak tegaan gitu.. *sigh...*

..and I also become SMA's fan bec. of her role di sini... :wub:

sama lho vit! i am become her fans jg, jd sring2 cr filmnya...

g ngerasa aneh sih, krn awal2nya kok pd under estimate gt ama SMA, pdhl wktu itu ijuksa kan blum tayang, tp udah bnyk yg ksh bad comment gt, ngak fair lah buat SMA klau d banding2in ama SHG, coz msing2 punya kelebihan....

apalg wktu kissing scane, so many fans angry about that! kyknya tlalu berlebihan deh..they just acting, it s not real lah, lgian ngak denger ada gosip2 aneh ttg mrk tuh! so aman2 aja deh.... :rolleyes:

g rasa Bi jg gak slalu harus d pasangin ama SHG kan...i think he need a different lead actress...( :sorry: please...dont hate me ya Bi/Kyo dreamer...) its just my opinion lho, n bukan berarti i dont like SHG ya, off course i do like SHG! for me she is one of the most beautiful actress in korea! but i think u/ kebaikan Bi perlu karakter n lawan main yg berbeda2 kan?

kcuali FH2 d buat, so pasti hrus dgn SHG dong! :P

ikutan dong....oohh..akhirnya BG died ya??...Maklum..nontonnya nunggu senin dan selasa..yah brarti rada2 disappoint dikit dong ya...btw gak pa2..as long the actor is mas rain... :D

gue gak suka endingnya I wish it would've been something different yg maybe more realistic gitu? I don't know.
nonetheless, Bi actingnya keren banget. asli he deserves an oscar award :wub: