Title: Who watches MMA
Description: Ultimate Fight Night Question
Pierce Cavanaugh - June 25, 2009 02:23 AM (GMT)
Yeah just a quick question for all those MMA fans out there who watched the Diego Sanchez /Clay Guida fight. What would you have scored the match. Because I simply didn't get how a couple of those judges had it.
TheFranchise - June 25, 2009 03:30 AM (GMT)
MMA judges are a weird group sometimes. I guess some the prelim fights had questionable decisions. But in my mind, they got it right with Diego winning. I personally don't see the split.
If I was judging, I'd have it 29-27 Sanchez. The fact is that Guida, if you are implying Guida won, just didn't do enough in the one round where he was the most aggressive. Guida's best round was the second and that is the only place I see him getting a 10-9 edge but even then, Diego was a beast on his back and did as much, if not more damage from the defensive position than Guida did in Diego's guard.
And round one was clearly a 10-8 rounds for Diego. What did u not like about the scoring?
Neil - June 25, 2009 04:17 AM (GMT)
Definite 10-8 RD1 for Sanchez. Guida was just trying to keep his head on that round. From there Guida seemed to control rounds 2 and 3 as he was on top most of the time.
At first yeah I thought Guida had it. And when I heard the fight was in his home town, yeah I thought it was in the bag. Very few times do the judges go against the hometown guy in a close fight.
But I can understand the Sanchez victory despite him being on his back. I'll score it on a boxing scale. How many shots were thrown and landed? How many submissions were attempted and nearly completed?
What saved Sanchez were a couple things. End of the second round when he was on his back and started throwing massive elbows to Guida's head. Round three he nearly pulled off an arm bar on his back. And I forget which round it was but he threw a sick kick to Guida's face that for whatever reason did not KO Guida.
Round 1 to Sanchez - 10-8
Round 2 to Guida - 10-9
Round 3 to Guida - 10-9
Could have been a draw easily but I understand Sanchez winning. Guida was on top most of the last two rounds but he wasn't hitting anything significant. Sanchez landed the heavier more memorable shots and I suspect that's why he won.
TheFranchise - June 25, 2009 05:06 AM (GMT)
|QUOTE (Neil @ Jun 24 2009, 11:17 PM)|
| Sanchez landed the heavier more memorable shots and I suspect that's why he won. |
Big impressions can mean the world.
Pierce Cavanaugh - June 25, 2009 04:33 PM (GMT)
I agree 100% with Neil. I thought at the very least it should have been a draw. I didn't think that Sanchez could possibly be given the 2nd and 3rd round. If anything I had Guida winning (only if you decided not to give the first rounbd 10-8).
TheFranchise - June 25, 2009 04:55 PM (GMT)
You have to take into account impresions left though. Round 1, the thing you'll remember is Diego's flurry coming out and that head kick.
Round 2, Diego's vicious elbows from the bottom.
Round 3, nobody really did much in the way of big impression.
Yeah, Guida had dominating positions in 2 and even 3, but he really didn't do anything with them. The images you remember from the match are of Diego Sanchez, Clay Guida was just kind of there and rarely aggressive.
Pierce Cavanaugh - June 25, 2009 09:22 PM (GMT)
I agree with the elbow comment. But disagree that Guida was never agressive. He was as agressive as a man who was nearly KO'ed 2 or 3 times can be. He still managed a takedown or two and some attempted movement from the top positions. Although then he was getting hammered with some nasty 'bows. However, I didn't think that those elbows should have won him round 2.
TheFranchise - June 26, 2009 03:11 AM (GMT)
Can I just note (diffent fight, same night) how much I enjoyed watching Demarques Johnson tap a hold in the mat like a bitch... :)
Terminus - June 26, 2009 04:13 PM (GMT)
Yeah, that was enjoyable. I think Sanchez did enough to win two out of three rounds, although the last two could have gone either way depending upon whether you liked Sanchez's work from the bottom or Guida's takedowns and ground and pound. First round was clearly 10-8, so it was going to be a draw at worst.
Wilk just owned Johnson. Was kind of nice to see, since he took down the two guys I hated most on Ultimate Fighter. Was a bit surprised that Pearson defeated Winner in the other final, but it was a good close fight so I can't dispute that decision at all.
Not a bad card, all things considered.
Pierce Cavanaugh - June 30, 2009 01:56 AM (GMT)
Yeah, watching Johnson tap was an extra little treat.