Philippines Bans Loli: Hentai is Child Pornography, hala nyo...

The Philippines has moved to ban all loli porn, or “hentai” in its wording; a Congressional statement then describes “hentai” as “the Japanese pornographic cartoon that depicts children in explicit sexual activity.”

Offenders face up to 12 years in prison for possession of such drawings.

The law is being promoted by both Catholics and feminists.

Congress explains the reasoning, such as it is, behind the bill in their awkwardly written official statement:

“Hentai, the Japanese pornographic cartoon that depicts children in explicit sexual activity, is considered child pornography material and one may be severely penalized by just mere possession of it.

A bill banning this pornographic cartoon was approved recently by the Joint House Committees on Justice and Welfare of Children chaired by Rep. Matias Defensor (3rd District, Quezon City) and Rep. Monica Prieto-Teodoro (1st District, Tarlac), respectively.

Prieto-Teodoro, one of the authors of the measure, said the bill penalizes the offenders who sell, offer, advertise, and promote child pornography; and have been found to possess, download, purchase, reproduce, or make available child pornography materials with the intent of selling or distributing them.

Prieto-Teodoro said child pornography material refers to the means and methods in which a child carries out pornography.

“It can be in forms of visual depiction, audio representation and written text or materials that advocate explicit sexual activity with a child,” Prieto-Teodoro said.

She explained that the said images of real and indistinguishable children in films, digital images or computer images, whether made or produced electronically or mechanically; drawings, cartoons, sculptures or paintings depicting children in an explicit sexual activity are just some of the visual depictions considered as child pornography materials.

Rep. Darlene R. Antonino-Custodio (1st District, South Cotabato) another author of the bill to be known as the “Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009″, said the Internet which is used for gaining knowledge is being used by some as a medium to gratify sexual desire.

“Once the picture of child victim is flashed either on the Internet or video clip, the picture is open for the entire world to see. The child loses his or her privacy and innocence which can never be restored,” Antonino-Custodio said.

“Adults indulging in child pornography either by purchasing, viewing or producing them, should be subjected to the most severe punishments,” Antonino-Custodio said.

Under the bill, child pornography refers to any representation of a child below 18 years of age, engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities or any representation of the sexual parts of a child primarily for sexual purposes.”

The confused wording of the report may reflect the probable ignorance of the bill’s sponsors regarding what exactly it is they are proposing to ban.

Penalties are draconian, with imprisonment of 6-12 years and a fine of up to 500,000 pesos for simple possession.

Sentences of 12-20 years are mandated for those involved with the production of such material, but it is not clear whether this includes material in which no actual children were involved.

Given the highly papist proclivities of the Philippines, and the less than perfect democratic process the country enjoys, the bill is thought unlikely to face difficulty becoming law.

The bill’s authors include the usual opponents of freedom of expression and individual liberty: members of BUHAY, a pro-life ultra-conservative religious party, and GABRIELA, a leftist feminist organisation, are key advocates of the ban.

The level of enforcement the law may receive seems unlikely to be too vigorous, as rule of law in the Philippines is not as entrenched as it is in most developed countries. This seems unlikely to console those who do eventually suffer prosecution under it, however.

It is also possible that the law may be unconstitutional, and so eventually be struck down, but this may prove a lengthy and fraught process, as even in nations with constitutionally guaranteed freedom of expression such prosecutions continue.

The theatre of moralism seems a popular political pastime of late. Loli bans have been proposed in Japan, and passed in the US, UK and Australia. Perhaps such histrionics prove a useful distraction from poor economic stewardship…

deym people trying to blame their stupidity on other stuffs.. sheessshhh..

pathetic..

When was this Bill supposedly passed and approved?

Personally, this is an insane proposition. First of all, HENTAI, if given the generally understood concept, is a 2d/3d depiction of perverted acts of nudity, masturbation, or sex, either grotesque or just plain ol' sex in graphic representation thru images, illustrations and digital media. Even an inexperienced artist can draw a scribble of nudity and such. Assuming I would draw a random scribble like for example, a stick figure with a gynie (no boobies to make it look like a child), then that's child prawn?

Rrrriiiighht.... so anime (hentai) loli characters have RIGHTS to privacy? And omegosh, their innocence can never be restored?! Tell that to GINTAMA characters (whose some characters literally resurrect in continuing episodes --- so restoring innocence can look pretty much simple compared to this). So what they're saying is, when a person DRAWS a naked image of a loli, either nude, touching herself or "violated to the point of enjoying it", you're an offender? Geeeeeez! They assume offenders are drawing perverted portraits of real people if that's the case. As an artist, I HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO DRAW ANYTHING I WANT AND IT'S THE FUCKING HELL OF A WAY I FUCKING EXPRESS MY FUCKING SELF! Of course, as artists, we share our "masterpieces" to the world. But it's how they "appreciate" our works that matters. NO ONE CAN LIMIT OUR IMAGINATION BUT OURSELVES. If I want to draw what I imagine, even if it's an inconceivable perverted piece of trash, do they have the right to topple my right of drawing it? If yes, then what's next? BAN our right to imagine "desired" thoughts? (Of course, I mean perverted stuffs)

Some artists who are depressed have the tendency to draw anything random.... and yes, some of which include hentai loli (think of Lucky Star), bestiality (think of Sonic the Hedgehog), Yuri (think of Sailor Uranus and Neptune), and the worst of the worst, Yaoi Shota (Think of 5 year-old Sasuke violated by 5 year-old Naruto ... or adult Kakashi). The point of this is illustrations brought about by imagination, be it twisted or not, doesn't violate any actual person's rights or privacy! As for innocence, the viewer is responsible for his own action. Of course, he has been warned. I know I was, but it wasn't me who was "violated" in that illustration. So, obviously, basing perverted illustrations from actual children is just darn BAD!

And there are other points which I would also like to emphasize:
An ADULT girl cosplaying as a CHILD anime shoujo character in perverted scenes is different in a whole dimension compared to a CHILD cosplaying as an ADULT or CHILD anime shoujo character involved in the same scenes. Hentai loli cosplay is bad when cosplayed by children. But when done by adults, can you find something of an offense here in relation to the whole child porno thing? (Sigh), only persons too morally upright and damn too thick-headed, or maybe had a husband, kid or family member caught with his member excited on child prawn, would close-mindedly and rampantly pursue a pathetic, and personally hilarious, crusade against this.

Their scope would trample ARTISTS' rights of freedom of expression and I DON'T think most of us would let them trample our rights for that.

STUPIDITY. They forgot to include NUDITY and MASTURBATION. Hmmm, so then, what do they call graphic illustrations of mature anime women in the same acts? BUNCH OF MORONS. Personally, I think these congressistas could have family members caught having a boner to such material. I mean, come on, people! Is it that big of an issue compared to the economic crisis we're having which you politicians, or what would I personally call EXPLOITICIANS, fancy talk your way out to make us believe our economy is improving but it is in fact the other way around?


BOTTOMLINE IS:

HENTAI ILLUSTRATIONS/IMAGES/MOVIES = involves NON REAL PEOPLE

HENTAI = Japanese term for 'pervert'. Also a common term for material which involves explicit acts of sex, and nudity.


IF I draw a random naked child and slap it in your faces, what would you Exploiticians do? Sue me?! You don't even know how to distinguish reality from fiction. There is no violation in this case if I didn't violate anyone's rights. It's my damn expression of depression. And THERE'S NO LAW WHICH PROHIBITS MY IMAGINATION. WHAT'S IN MY HEAD AND ON MY PAPER IS MY WORLD. What you see on paper, stays on paper... damn retards.

Here's the official press release.
http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/details.php?pressid=3253

It's not in yet but it most probably will be, with the Church and feminist groups behind it.

Loli is already banned in some countries as far as I know.

There's been quite a reaction from the online community when the news got out a week ago.

Also, take a look at this:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=hentai
Guess who's on the top?

O M G .... Philippines?! Makati?!? And I laughed when I saw a couple of H-doujins scanlated in tagalog (the narration and dialogue were hilarious and I need not even stare at the illustrations)

But it's impractical. They should just ban ACTUAL (real) LOLI porn and leave anime out of it. As stated my point previously, there's no compromise or abuse if it involves fictional images or animations. But I guess you're right. The hypocritical clergy (some of them --- I don't generalize) and "feminists" would eventually triumph. But they would only win the battle... not the war.

I can take the banning of Loli... but hentai, in general?! Oh come on!

hahahah napaghahalataan
bal anon gd ooh. hahahahah

^
If you're referring about me being a perv, well... let's just say I'm a trying-hard Perv. I respect women to the point that I let them abuse me and I just keep a facade of being a tolerant fool. My nature is being an introvert, an angel-in-heart but devil-in-mind persona, and a martyr when it comes to relationships. It's a way I color my monotonous perspective. Okay, that was irrelevant... moving on...
I know it's a usual excuse of genuine pervs to say "It's for the sake of Art!". But... Hohohohoho~ they're hatchlings compared to me, whose eyes were tortured by even resorting to reading YAOI, and the most sickening of them all... Yaoi SHOTA. In an attempt to change my style to shounen, I had to analyze the material, discard it, then visualize + internalize it, afterwhich I then try to replicate it in vain. It was a practice method developed by my devilish Art Coach and she's my ex's twin sister who works at WSJ. Yes, it's nauseating... and downright disgusting. But for the sake of Anime Art and improvement, I had to trust my coach... until I confirm this is just merely a sick joke of hers.


Man is POLYGAMOUS by nature; he wants to have his harem! Watching stimulating stuffs such as these is normal... unless of course, the dumbass APPLIED what he saw. It's all in the psyche wherein one escapes reality and create his own (sick) fantasy.... until he realizes that his sister (unless he has Imouto-Moe), his mom, his aunts, and even his nana (grandma) also belong to the species called 'women'. There are exceptions, however, and one is being a MILF (and I'm not talking about the faction in the Mindanao areas).


If you were implying something else, then I have no further comments.

This is a follow-up to my previous post.

Philippines: Life Sentence for Loli Manga

Source: http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/20/p...for-loli-manga/

The Philippines has based a draconian ban on child pornography which means a potential life sentence for possessing books, comics or artwork considered by authorities to depict a child involved in sexual activity.

Republic Act 9775, “the Anti-Child Pornography Act of 2009,” previously reported here, has now been signed into law, and its provisions seem to be far more severe and far-reaching than previously imagined.

Producing, distributing, “promoting” or possessing anything defined as child pornography attracts anything up to a life sentence and a fine of 5 million pesos ($110,000).

The ban sweepingly defines child pornography as “any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, or a child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities.”

Alongside actual pornography featuring underage participants (which was already illegal), the ban clearly makes no distinction between fictional and non-fictional material, prescribing the same extreme penalties for both.

With no clear definition of “explicit sexual activities,” it also seems authorities are free to apply their own standards of judgement.

The ban on textual and audio material would also appear to define even talking about child sexuality as child pornography, and undoubtedly bans a variety of literary works featuring underage sex.

Possessing Vladimir Nabokov’s literary classic Lolita, considered one of the best English novels of the twentieth century, would certainly seem to attract a possible life sentence under these provisions.

As is usual with such laws, those under 18 writing about or recording activities with other “children” also face the full weight of the law, so in theory a minor could be handed a life sentence for writing about having sex with their partner, although presumably in such cases judges might decide to be lenient.

Internet service providers, hosts and owners of business premises are also enjoined to monitor for and quickly report any offending activity.

One of the authors of the bill rejoices at her success:

“We used to be a haven for child pornography proliferators and foreign pedophiles, now our country is going to be a safe haven for children.”

Displaying its usual commitment to freedom of expression, the EU expressed its delight with the draconian bill through its ambassador:

“It is extremely a positive step forward to fight child pornography. We are pleased that the legislature passed the bill and the President signed it into a law on November 17.”

Unsurprising considering international pressure was one reason for the ban.

Leaving aside the issue of the poorly written nature of the law, actual enforcement of the law is unlikely to be very effective, as the Philippines is by any estimation a chaotic and corrupt nation unable to enforce its existing body of laws, let alone any new ones. However, this is in itself hardly reassuring…

There you have it people.

You know what you have to do Suki. *Evil Laugh*

After some bickering with someone over this idiotic law, which would have not been idiotic at all if it had not included in its scope, fictional characters (e.g animated/manga characters), my reaction somehow isn't of the same level as I had when I previously replied.
It's a very sad news to artists, those who absolutely have no intention of gaining 'satisfaction' from such theme/material. Even classical materials, literary masterpieces of their own right are included in this scope. I honestly cannot comprehend such logic. Fictional characters are intellectual properties, and though they may have physical manifestations (either in visual or in audio), they have no identities of their own and only through their creators' whims can they submit themselves to whatever act or attribute desired of them. Personal possession of such material is a private matter, while Public display is another thing. I understand their point and motives but their scope is just way too off.

I totally agree. One doesn't need to be a lawyer in able to see such poor written nature. Sometimes I even wonder why the so-called "Good Samaritan Law", mentioned in Nursing, is still a bill in the philippines (as I have heard from lectures, do correct me if I am mistaken), while this one became a law despite the fact that its scope and concepts are as questionable as it is highly doubted to be effectively enforced.

I definitely agree with this statement.

It will never be properly enforced. as with most of our laws. One of the reasons why Philippines > Canada. Just joking, Lol.

Japan > Philippines > Canada