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Merry Christmas guys!
Iīve got some great news with a "but..." that will become awesome news with no "but" in the near future.
The great news are:
-A first batch of Series 1 figures HAS SHIPPED ALREADY!
-The remaining orders will be shipped this week!
The "but..." is that:
Those copies havenīt turned out as perfect as the sculptor wanted them to so he will be remolding and recasting them and will ship the 100% PERFECT final copies with the Sawyer bust as soon as they are all finished (hopefully it wonīt take another year, )
So, long story short:
Several orders have been shipped already, the sculptor says he has gone right down the list by who ordered first. So some people (at least those from the USA) should start receiving them this week, but that depends on the post office, not the sculptor All the remaining orders should be shipping this week.
But those copies we will be receiving now arenīt 100% perfect and the sculptor wants them to be 100% perfect so he has shipped/is shipping the not 100% perfect ones now so we can be sure heīs serious about this and not fooling us AND the 100% perfect copies will be coming soon next to the Sawyer bust and the extra Daniel heads (for those who ordered the extra head).
Quoting the sculptor:
One thing that has stressed me out BIG TIME (and has been the MAIN cause of delays) is that some of the castings have a few little defects. I've tried to make them as perfect as possible, but it has been difficult. Due to my lack of being able to pressure cast, this has occured. So....what I'm going to do is that I'll ship all of the ones that I have already cast to people so they at least know that I'm not some scam artist or whatever, then I'm going to remold them and send you all another, second set of PERFECTLY cast ones that I'll have my friend do for me. He's working on other stuff for me, so it'll be no problem. So......Don't worry! You're still getting the castings I already have, but the perfectionist in me MUST make this right. It's driven me nutty, spending lots of time casting, without all of them turning out perfectly. But that's the tricky thing about casting, especially tiny stuff.
Cannot say the exact number of orders that have been shipped already but there are several of them (not just 3 or 4, I mean). The sculptor will post it himself when all of the remaining orders have been shipped
So...keep your eyes on your mail box those of you who ordered first! And please, post here when you start receiving your figures! Canīt wait to get mine!
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QUOTE (reverie @ Dec 14 2009, 03:09 PM)
I'll say a "yay" for now, with the question of: will we have to pay for shipping again if there's now more than one shipment?
I donīt think so, donīt worry. We already paid for shipping once, shouldnīt have to pay for it twice as itīs not our fault the figures have to be remolded and recasted and reshipped.
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QUOTE (KarenRoss @ Dec 14 2009, 04:59 AM)
Merry Christmas guys!
Iīve got some great news with a "but..." that will become awesome news with no "but" in the near future.
The great news are:
-A first batch of Series 1 figures HAS SHIPPED ALREADY!
-The remaining orders will be shipped this week!
Karen,
I am no longer at the address I was when I first paid for my figures. I need to get a hold of the sculptor to see if mine have gone out yet and give him my new address.
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QUOTE (jbdean @ Dec 14 2009, 05:53 PM)
I am no longer at the address I was when I first paid for my figures. I need to get a hold of the sculptor to see if mine have gone out yet and give him my new address.
Donīt worry, just contact him at the email address you sent the money to (the "collectormania" one), he will let let you know if yours shipped already or not, no prob
Unfortunatly the deal that Clay made still stands. If they are not in everyone's hands by tommorow we still get half a refund.
I don't think that's fair - obviously not everyone is going to get them at the same time. Clay made good on his promise to ship them - I'm not sure what more you expect...
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QUOTE (ShadowX81 @ Dec 14 2009, 11:36 AM)
Unfortunatly the deal that Clay made still stands. If they are not in everyone's hands by tommorow we still get half a refund.
I don't think that's fair - obviously not everyone is going to get them at the same time. Clay made good on his promise to ship them - I'm not sure what more you expect...
Agree, I also think itīs not fair and itīs not really kind to keep pushing Clay like that. Yeah, heīs a few days late with the final shipping date he gave us, but he has kept his promise anyway and has started shipping. I know we are all fed up with the continuous delays and the way Clay has been breaking all his promises once and again, I have complained and argued with him a lot of times myself, I have also posted sarcastic comments just like some of you, but I think that now he has finally started shipping it really doesnīt help that we keep bashing him, if you know what I mean...
That said, Shadow, if you or anybody else still want his half a refund, let Clay know, I think he will prefer to send it to you rather than to have anybody annoyed and/or complaining
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Sorry to sound negative, but there is a sense of desperation about the whole thing. I mean he doesn't even know exactly how many he's shipped - that's unbelievable !! For all you know it may only be two or three sets On top of that, the figures are it seems, less than perfect and he says he's going to cast them again ..... I mean two years on and still nothing concrete. I suggest people wait and see exactly how many members actually receive their figures over the next few days and let them determine exactly what the quality is like, then you can either praise or continue to chase him I think it's rather premature to start singing the sculpters praises just yet, at the moment this sounds like little more than a desperate token gesture to keep the wolves from the door
I am not sure I understand sending out sets that are just going to be replaced. So does that mean everyone gets 2 sets...one with flaws, and one "perfect"? Seems a little over complicated to me. I hope it works out, but man, I'd think the perfect ones should already be shipping at this point.
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Well Clay said that if they were not in everyone's hands by the 15th then everyone would get half a refund. It doesnt get much clearer then that.
Despite popular belief, verbal contracts are legally binding. Its just hard defend them since there is often little to no evidence to prove them. Fortunatly the fact that this is a forum means his post is proof.
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QUOTE (bcs7583 @ Dec 14 2009, 08:37 PM)
I am not sure I understand sending out sets that are just going to be replaced. So does that mean everyone gets 2 sets...one with flaws, and one "perfect"? Seems a little over complicated to me.
I think you have to look hard into this and make of it what you will. I know what I think Do you really believe that after all this, you're actually going to get a second perfect set ? The initial set has been hard enough to obtain, let alone a further one ! Sorry folks I may be wrong, but it all seems very transparent to me. I'm amazed that anyone with an ounce of common sense would actually be taken in by this
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QUOTE (Jack Shephard @ Dec 14 2009, 09:02 PM)
Sorry to sound negative, but there is a sense of desperation about the whole thing. I mean he doesn't even know exactly how many he's shipped - that's unbelievable !! For all you know it may only be two or three sets On top of that, the figures are it seems, less than perfect and he says he's going to cast them again ..... I mean two years on and still nothing concrete. I suggest people wait and see exactly how many members actually receive their figures over the next few days and let them determine exactly what the quality is like, then you can either praise or continue to chase him I think it's rather premature to start singing the sculpters praises just yet, at the moment this sounds like little more than a desperate token gesture to keep the wolves from the door
I think either you misunderstood my post or I didnīt explain myself well enough.
I didnīt say the sculptor doesnīt know how many orders he has shipped, that would be stupid, lol, of course he knows the exact number of orders he has shipped, and I know too, but he has told me that he will let you all know when he has shipped them all instead of posting how many he has shipped already and how many he hasnīt. I tell you there are not "only 2 or 3 sets" shipped, but way more
And regarding the casting and the figures: First of all it hasnīt been for 2 years just yet, although itīs close to that, yeah, but not yet. I have already posted a quote from him saying why the figures arenīt perfect already, and why this has taken so long. Mostly due to the small size of the figures that makes it more difficult to cast (because of air bubbles and stuff like that). He is used to cast figures which are bigger and the bigger figures are easier to cast. Heīs all alone doing this and he has already said he could use help with the casting because itīs complicated. His friend, who seems to be more used to this kind of casting than him and has the right tools, couldnīt help him before but will be able to help him with the new remolding and recasting.
Nobody is praising the sculptor for his work, Jack, donīt know what you are talking about, I just said it isnīt fair that we keep bashing him because of things like "he said he would give refunds if he didnīt ship the figures before this day, so as he has shipped them a few days later he must give the refunds" because we have already got the first giant step we were waiting for: him to ship the figures once and for all (even if itīs only some of the orders for now).
Now regarding the two castings, the non-perfect one and the perfect one:
We have been complaining because he didnīt ship the figures. We knew he was having problems with the castings and that he needed the help of his friend because heīs doing it all on his own and he has noticed casting is tricky and difficult.
Now he finishes the castings and sees that in spite of trying once and again the figures arenīt 100% perfect and he is not happy with them, so instead of telling us that we must keep waiting because he isnīt happy with the castings and risking to get a "yeah sure, another excuse..." kind of reply from us, he decides that he will just ship the figures he has cast already, even though they arenīt perfect, and spend extra money to ship each of us a second batch of figures once he can get his friendīs help. And now some of you guys are seriously complaining because we are going to get a first batch of non-100%perfect figures now and a second batch of 100% perfect figures later for no extra cost instead of getting NOTHING at all and having to wait more? Seriously?
Well, keep complaining if you feel better that way, Iīd rather get these non-perfect figures now and the perfect final ones later than getting nothing at all.
Btw- everybody is entitled to their opinions and everybody has the rights to post and complain, Iīm not gonna ban anybody or delete any comments for that. But I canīt help finding it really weird and funny that you, Jack Shephard, are one of the boardies who complain the most and post most of the sarcastic comments and still you are one of the few people who hasnīt ever ordered any of the figures. Find it really interesting that you feel so...concerned over our orders, our money and our project. Really reminds me of your nickname character, needing to try to help everybody even though you arenīt involved with this. (Donīt worry, Jack was one of my fav characters back in the first seasons Unfortunately, he became a bit too annoying later )
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QUOTE (Jack Shephard @ Dec 14 2009, 10:01 PM)
I'm amazed that anyone with an ounce of common sense would actually be taken in by this
Easy, Jack, youīre entering a dangerous territory with that last statement. Everybody is entitled to their opinions but let everybody think what they want and decide by themselves what they want to believe. I highly doubt anybody here needs for you to come to open their eyes (our eyes), everybody is intelligent enough to know what he/she has to do and think.
You donīt want the figures? you donīt trust the sculptor? Just ask for a refund and forget about this. Oh wait, you canīt because you didnīt order the figures because you didnīt trust the sculptor So... what do you exactly want? To make us see that we are blind and doesnīt have common sense because we keep trusting the sculptor? To enlighten us? Thank you but we are just fine, donīt worry, really.
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QUOTE (ShadowX81 @ Dec 14 2009, 09:51 PM)
Well Clay said that if they were not in everyone's hands by the 15th then everyone would get half a refund. It doesnt get much clearer then that.
Despite popular belief, verbal contracts are legally binding. Its just hard defend them since there is often little to no evidence to prove them. Fortunatly the fact that this is a forum means his post is proof.
Yes, you are right, so as I already said, if you have not received your figures by tomorrow, go and ask for your refund. Simple as that.
Anybody who doesnīt want to receive the figures now because he/sheīd rather wait for the final 100%perfect ones can ask Clay to not to ship their figures now.
And anybody who doesnīt want to keep waiting for the final figures, plus the Sawyer bust and the Jack figure or doesnīt believe they will happen can go and ask for a full refund and forget about this nightmare.
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oh WOW!!!
I think it's wonderful, personally, and am very excited about getting them EVEN IF they are not perfected. Why? It means I can practice my painting skills on them, and if they come out fairly decent, voila!!! Stocking stuffers for my Lostie friends.
I haven't read this entire new conversation in great detail and will later, perhaps I'm missing something, but I think Clay is fulfilling his promise to ship by mid-December. I am still anxious to get perfect little figures AND the Sawyer bust but it will happen when it happens.
This is a GIANT step forward with the project!!!!!
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i'm not sure what to think... i just really hope that i'll get something in the next days.
jack shephard: i agree with a lot of things you said, but the fact that you did not order the figures astonishes me. you're really making an idiot of yourself. did you plan to grab the figures after the first people got theirs or what? or are you just hanging around message boards and playing mr. grumpy? well, whatever. at least there're some people who're still annoyed, i aleady resigned. i don't want to offend anyone, but it's amazing that there're still people out there who believe in this project. giving a guy a lot of money to do a job, see him breaking promises a dozen times and almost two years later, still nothing (physical). when/if the first guy gets the figures, i salute you and your positive thinking and faith in mankind. really.
(and by the way, i don't think that this whole thing is a scam, it is definitely not. i just think that clay is incredibly unreliable. and unreliability + money in advance + anonymity of the internet doesn't work well)
okay, i try to think positive again. some people will have their figures for christmas. yay!
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I'm with the cynical bunch on this forum. I thought the reason why Clay didn't ship the castings was because they weren't perfect and he assured us all when we finally received them they would be 100% perfect. We know he's been having trouble, he's had a year and a half worth of trouble documented on the other topic. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that we're finally getting something rather than nothing but it feels a bit iffy to me. Sorry, Clay.
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