"Heroes of the Old Republic", Official Loganverse TV Series

Czerka is openly loyal to the Sith, and they control both Tatooine and Kashyyyk. At least they're the strongest military and financial force on those planets. The Dreshdae colony on Korriban is also run by Czerka, so the potential academy students have a place to live until Yuthura can see if they're worthy of joining the Sith. As for Manaan, it's not part of the Republic, so once again it's not impossible for the Exile to show up there. Though I agree it's a bit of a stretch to have the Exile involved in the events of K1, since the Exile still doesn't return to the Republic for another four or five years. It all depends on how you write it.

Also I meant to say Taris in my post before. But it is controlled by the Sith. I have no idea what I was talking about. I suspect it wasn't controlled by the Sith until Bastila crashed there, but that's another matter.

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Didn't see your post earlier, sorry.

First, the Exile isn't "supposed to hear very minimal details about the war". There's nothing in the game to support that claim. The player has one dialogue option suggesting they didn't know it was a war between Jedi, but that's just one of many possible options.

Second, the Jedi did not suspect Revan to attack the Republic - the masters in the first game claim they were as surprised as anyone. Revan had gone to war to protect the Republic, so why would they expect him to attack it? Yes, he defied the Jedi Code in going to war, but that's what they were angry about, nothing else.

Furthermore it's highly unlikely Revan hadn't already attacked, as Atris accuses the Exile of turning to the dark side. No Jedi had done so since the Great Sith War, over thirty years earlier, and those were very different circumstances. The two Sith Lords, Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma, had a history of defying the Jedi way even more than Revan and Malak. Exar Kun sought Sith teachings and was taught by the spirit of a Sith Lord; he chose his path. Ulic's fall is a bit more complicated, but he had a history of ignoring the whole "no emotion, no passion" thing, as did other Jedi who later joined Kun.

The fact of the matter is, if the trial happened before the Jedi Civil War, the Jedi were both infinitely wise in predicting the war had corrupted Revan and Malak, and infinitely idiotic for being surprised when they actually attacked, as they claim in K1. And to be frank, the Jedi were too arrogant to be able to see that the Mandalorian Wars directly caused the Jedi Civil War, at that point. It's not until after Katarr that they even begin to see a connection between the Mandalorian Wars and what has been killing all the Jedi.

We were actually talking about this a few days ago. While I can't go into details, the story has evolved beyond the initial framework we originally came up with. It's no longer going to be a simple story of two Jedi tracking Logan and co.

Those of you who have played Enter the Matrix will have an idea of what we're doing. The story takes place parallel to Episodes 1 and 2 and fills in some gaps. There are things that will happen in Episode 3 that will have a direct connection to the series. However, you will not need to have seen the series in order to fully enjoy Episode III.

In the Matrix Reloaded, we don't get to know much about Niobe, Ghost and Sparks - the crew of the Logos. If you play the game you find out all about them. Well in Heroes of the Old Republic, there are some characters who may not have gotten as much development as we would have liked in the movies, so this is their chance to shine.

The idea behind it is that by the time we reach the climax of the trilogy, we will know all we need to about each character, everyone will have sufficient development so their ultimate fate will resonate more than it would if they were...well...Biggs.

These characters will be just as important as the crew of the Ebon Hawk.

One question- Do you guys know yet if these clips will be posted on YouTube, or will they be exclusively on KOTOR TV?

It will debut on Kotor TV.

My plan...and this isn't necessarily Kaydons plan, just mine....is to debut the series on Kotor TV. A few days after the episode airs, it shows up on youtube.

Then, finally, possibly before the release of Episode III, the whole series would be released on dvd. Each episode might become available for download individually but I'm not sure if that would be before or after the dvd release.

Because I don't want to spam this board by quoting everything JCarter426 just said i'm going to do it like this.

RELPY TO JCarter426:

Right there are several choices in dialogue but Kaydon doesn't always follow what the dialogue reads. He could simply wing it or write his own response to Atton's questions/statements.

I said that the counsel didn't try him based on attacking the republic i said they wanted to try him for defying them, which you pointed out. I do however disagree with the fact that revan attacks the republic during the trial for 2 reasons. 1. The exile isn't really supposed to have heard much about the JCW so it would defy it's own canon if Revan was attacking while the exile was still in known space. 2. Atris also believed that the Exile fell because of what she did at malachor (ordering the mass shadow generator).

Then there's nothing preventing him from having the Exile know more about the Jedi Civil War than you think the Exile should know.

You say that again, but you have no proof to back up your statement. The masters all mention that Revan is a threat during the trial, which does not make sense unless he's already attacked the Republic. I can understand the Council would not be happy that he defied the Jedi Code in order to protect the Republic, but I can't see them viewing him as a threat because of that action; as far as they know he is still loyal to the Jedi ways in all other respects, and has only broken the rules in order to prevent a greater crime.

That's kind of beside the point, since Atris is not the entire council. The other masters are also concerned about the Exile following Revan, who, by your logic, is not a Sith and is still loyal to the Republic.

But this discussion is probably better suited for another topic, in any case.

alright you convinced me. hmm i always thought that the exile was supposed to have barely any clue of what's going on because of a side quest that says figure out what happened in the galaxy while you've been gone but i guess not.

I wouldn't say you're supposed to figure out what happened so much as the reason for why it happened. Kreia explains how the Jedi Civil War was caused by the Mandalorian Wars, how the wars masked a war of conversion, and how the player's choices at Malachor had a profound impact on the galaxy that they hadn't foreseen. All of this is explained throughout the course of the game, and even though there's a "Bonus Mission", it's still more of a recurring motif rather than a single quest.

But as I said, the timeline is already screwy, so there's really no harm in fudging events just a bit to make your story work. Like having the Exile involved in the Jedi Civil War in a small way.

Yeah you're right. Hell, even the KOTOR movies themselves aren't considered to "follow canon" but then again most fan films/machinima aren't supposed to.

Have you done any work on this yet?

I think that might be a no no. At the moment, Kaydon is probably still working on Episode II, so production on HotOR will probably begin ''after'' Search for the Star Forge is out.

Wait - three of the four worlds (five, counting Dantooine as a Star Map world) are Sith controlled?

Dantooine - Jedi/ Republic controlled
Kashyyyk - Controlled by Czerka
Manaan - Controlled by the Selkath
Korriban - Sith controlled
Tatooine - Republic controlled? Or not controlled by anyone?

So that's one world held by the Sith, not three. But I still don't think the Exile would have reason to visit any of those worlds.

"It's controlled by the Hutts." - Qui-Gon Jinn, The Phantom Menace

That was four thousand years later...

During the game, it's controlled by Czerka, which is allied with the Sith.

Yeah, I know. I caught that awhile back now. I doubt, that it was ever NOT controlled by the Hutts or someone with Hutt relations.

This post has been edited by True Sith on Oct 10 2009, 08:08 PM