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| Suz |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 04:31 PM
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Right Guys
Not sure if you are aware but Nottinghamshire County Council and Nottinghamshire Police have been awarded an injunction which is County wide ie the whole of Nottinghamshire. I'll list the main points below:- The injunction was awarded on the 14th June 2007 and lasts for 2 years. Its a result of the Boy racers cruising. You will be in breach of the injunction if you :- 1) participate in a c*r cruise within the County of Nottinghamshire. The part which is causing me a bit of confusion is the definition of 'c*r cruise' on the injection which is (word for word) :- A c*r cruise is an event at which the drivers and passengers of 5 or more motor vehicles congregate together or drive in convey or race each other upon the highway, so as by their conduct to make excessive noise, cause danger to other road users or risk of injury to any person or risk of damage to property. The definition of motor vehicle is any mechanical or electrical propelled machine. (Am I looking too much into this?) Just thought that I should let you know. The injunction is targeting Boy Racers which are/were causing an issue around areas like J27 and Mansfield. I am trying to get hold of the ifull njection and guidelines which the Police will be following and I'll let you know if/how bikers are effected. Suz This post has been edited by Suz on Jun 20 2007, 04:45 PM |
| Shaz |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 08:50 PM
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hhhhmmmm could be a bugger for bikers if they decide to apply that to us as well - no more group ride outs or meets?? Not likely!
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| Bob |
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 10:29 PM
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Copy of said injunction
IN THE NOTTINGHAM COUNTY COURT BETWEEN NOTTINGHAMSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL Claimant and ALL PERSONS INJUNCTION ORDER IF YOU HAVE BEEN SERVED WITH A COPY OF THIS ORDER AND YOU DO NOT OBEY IT YOU WILL BE GUILTY OF CONTEMPT OF COURT AND YOU MAY BE SENT TO PRISON On the 14th day of June 2007 the Court considered an application for an injunction. The Court ordered that: 1. All persons are forbidden from participating in a c*r cruise within the County of Nottinghamshire. This order applies to persons who have been served with a copy of it. 2. Any person served with a copy of the order has permission to apply to the Court to vary or discharge it. 3. The provisions of Schedule 1 to this order shall apply. 4. The expressions "c*r cruise", "participating in a c*r cruise" and "County of Nottinghamshire"have the meanings set out inSchedule 2 to this Order. 5. These orders shall remain in force until 5:00 p.m. on 14th June 2009. If you do not fully understand this order you should go to a solicitor, legal Advice Centre or a Citizens' Advice Bureau. Schedule 1 The requirements referred to in paragraph 1 are as follows: 1. Service of this Order shall be effected by an officer of the Nottinghamshire Police Service, who shall record the name and address of the person upon whom the order is served and shall communicate the same together with the time and date of service to the Claimant. 2. At the same time that this order is served, the person served shall be given an explanatory notice in the form attached to this Schedule. 3. The Claimant shall serve a copy of the application for an injunction herein, together with the statements in support upon any person served in accordance with the provisions of this Schedule. Such service shall be effected by first class post, no later than 7 days after service of the Order. The Claimant shall not be required to served copies of the DVD evidence relied on. 4. The Claimant shall notify the Court that service of this Order, the application for an injunction and the statements in support has taken place, the name and address of the person served and the time and date of service of the Order. 5. The Court will then consider by a Circuit Judge whether to add the person served to the proceedings as a named Defendant and whether to make any further order. EXPLANATORY NOTICE You have been served with an injunction. If you take part in a c*r cruise anywhere within the County of Nottinghamshire, you will be in contempt of court and you may be sent to prison. You will receive additional information by post within the next week. Schedule 2 (a) A c*r cruise is an event at which the drivers and passengers of 5 or more motor vehicles congregate together or drive in convoy or race each other upon the highway, so as by their conduct to make excessive noise, cause danger to other road users or risk of injury to any person or risk of damage to property. (b) Participating in a c*r cruise refers to drivers of vehicles or their passengers conducting themselves as described in paragraph (a). © The County of Nottinghamshire is the area outlined in black on the plan attached to this Schedule but does not include the City of Nottingham where separate provisions apply. Courtesy of Mav from GB Bikers (Notts Policeman) |
| Suz |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 04:38 PM
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Right guys.
I have emailed to the Copper that was involved with the Injunction and it does include bikes too although they Plod will be targeting the 'Moped Gangs'. |
| Bob |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 05:03 PM
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Sorry suz, can't see any mention of bikes in the injunction in the post above yours, which is the actual injunction as copied by Mav a Notts policeman who is on GB Bikers, plus police didn't say anything to us on sunday, they just waved "hello" as the drove past us at J27 sunday night. As far as can understand a "c*r Cruise" is something done in a c*r, not on a bike. Or have i missed something.???? |
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| davers |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 05:14 PM
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they have used the word motor vehicle in the injunction,so that could include bikes.....your defence being (c*r cruise)....they contradict each other.
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| Suz |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 06:09 PM
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Bikes are covered in Schedule 2 of the injunction with the use of the word motor vehicle.
This is the reason that I asked the officer that was involved with the injunction itself. I know that the definition of motor vehicle is a mechanically or electrically propelled machine. A bike is one of these. |
| davers |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 06:47 PM
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well by definition are not excessively slow drivers often classified as a danger on the road? can they not cause danger to other road users?
i would say so. and if so a funeral procession of more than 5 vehicles meets the criteria of the injunction. All totally irrelevant i guess as i shall still be going upto junction 27 on my bike,by being there...alone might i add,i am doing nothing illegal....i ride up a hill...once round a roundabout and down a hill....back round another roundabout,each time i signal for each of my manouvers so no law is broken. only law i can think of is the one they have for excessive lean(pmsl) and id love to see that enforced as numerous bike riding bodies can prove that by hanging off your bike,maybe even getting your knee down you are actually safer....seeing as your body leaning actually allows you to turn while keeping the bike more upright,effectively keeping a larger contact patch from the tyre in touch with the road....hey so i have my defence. oh and if i see 5 or more of you up there...i dont know you...im on my own -------------------- |
| Bob |
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 06:59 PM
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Oh so you gone back to being "billy no mates" again then
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| Graham |
Posted: Jun 23 2007, 03:17 PM
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Whats to stop the c*r cruisers from just saying they are on their own?
If i was a cruiser and i had 3 cars in front and maybe 10 behind, couldnt my defence be that i was simply overtaken by 3 other cars and the rest stayed behind. ..obviously forget the fact im driving like a nutter in a F-reg Corsa with stickers all over it and a small sewer pipe for an exhaust Thing is surely this applies to people going to and from events like the BMF etc ... doesnt it? I've not seen the injunction in its complete entirety yet. I would guess that the police will enforce the injunction using good judgement and leave us bikers and grieving funeral processions alone Graham |
| davers |
Posted: Jun 23 2007, 03:23 PM
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nope stop the funeral processions
they are annoying and hold people up for no reason,person is dead they dont care how fast they get to where they are burnt or buried -------------------- |
| Shaz |
Posted: Jun 24 2007, 09:45 AM
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I would imagine the police have just got sick of the cruise nottingham causing a nuisance & racing - but the police can't exactly say "oi cruise nottingham, we're gonna get ya!" They gotta be 'fair' & make it apply to everyone, but I can't see em tackling every single group that meets... where would they find the man power to do that? If they are, then it's a bloody good job Matlock Bath aint in Nottinghamshire!!!! This post has been edited by Shaz on Jun 24 2007, 09:45 AM -------------------- ![]() |
| Cunni |
Posted: Jun 24 2007, 09:48 AM
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In fact, you are reaking the law, technically, as you are usign the roads for fun and not actually travelling from A to B, therefore 'Not using the road for it's intended purpose'. It's annoying ain't it, they seem to have made a law for anything. If they want to book you, then your done for. "Eating a banana at the side of the road sunshine? Not sharing it? Your having an Anti Social Behaviour Order!" -------------------- |
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| lee636 |
Posted: Jun 24 2007, 07:08 PM
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Just spoke to my girlfriends sister who is a police officer and she doesnt THINK it includes bikes. It is mainly just for chavs who do burnouts and stupid things that are dangerous on a public road. I put think in block capitals as she couldnt be 100% if it includes bikes or not, I suppose its just one of thos grey areas again that will depend on the mood of the officer that pulls you over or if he/she hasnt got anything else to do.
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| Suz |
Posted: Jun 24 2007, 08:11 PM
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I spoke to the Police Officer who was involved in getting the injunction and it does include bikes. He said it was for the 'moped gangs'.
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| Tay |
Posted: Jun 25 2007, 07:26 AM
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At the end of the day, we as Bikers and cars drivers want safe roads to ride and drive on so if there are Bikers out there that are riding dangerously, and causing a hazard to others on Public Roads, then the Police should be targetting them!!!
For those that go up to Junction 27, they meet away from the public road and play on islands within the Industrial Estate away from the Public Roads so cant see any problem with what is going off up there and the fact that the Police were around a week last Sunday and saw a group of about 11 bikers on the Industrial Estate shows that what is going off there is no problem. |
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