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 Toy Makeup
Zephyr
Posted: Feb 25 2010, 04:18 PM


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The boys and guns thread made me wonder, "is there any toy that triggers the same sort of parental angst and position taking for girls, as there is for boys?"

And then today my cousin called me, asking if she could buy makeup as a birthday gift for my dd's 7th birthday. I said yes.

What would you say?
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LearningFromExperience
Posted: Feb 25 2010, 05:20 PM


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Hey, I've BOUGHT your kids toy make up. cool.gif

And those nasty plastic high-heeled slippers. grin.gif

My girls, the ones who lived in princess costumes and fake shoes and put on lots of toy make up when they were 4 yo - are 14 yo now, and it takes them days to find shoes they like because they refuse to wear anything that messes with their balance or posture.

Not to mention make up. They put some vaseline on their lips for their cousin's Bar Mitzvah last month.

In other words - same thing as guns: role playing that does not turn into reality.
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Dina
Posted: Feb 26 2010, 08:49 AM


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my daughter at the age of 2 started to ask for nail polish. she likes lip stick- but we only allow the glossy lip gloss type of thing.

in my opinion- the more you forbid something the more they want it- id rather them see (boys and girls) that the toys/makeup are no big deal- and then they move on
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chavs
Posted: Feb 26 2010, 11:04 AM


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I wouldnt have a problem with it, heck, ds sometimes wear make up (much to dh's dismay) he then smiles and asks how he looks lol.gif. Dd does have those horrible slippers.
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gr8
Posted: Feb 26 2010, 06:38 PM


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QUOTE (Zephyr @ Feb 25 2010, 04:18 PM)
The boys and guns thread made me wonder, "is there any toy that triggers the same sort of parental angst and position taking for girls, as there is for boys?"

barbie dolls?
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elisheva
Posted: Feb 26 2010, 08:02 PM


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QUOTE (gr8 @ Feb 26 2010, 06:38 PM)
QUOTE (Zephyr @ Feb 25 2010, 04:18 PM)
The boys and guns thread made me wonder, "is there any toy that triggers the same sort of parental angst and position taking for girls, as there is for boys?"

barbie dolls?

My dd is too young for this yet, but I confess I cringe at the thought of Barbies. I had them and cut all their hair off. There's a song by Nancy White called "Daughters of feminists" It's a very cute song and prob very true. There's a part that goes:
How did they get so girly?
How come they want a Barbie?
Why does it start so early?
Why when we bring her up just like a fella
who does she idolize?
Cinderella!

Anyway. cute. Wish I could find it online to link to.
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Well, I guess I'll be the odd man out! I wouldn't go for the makeup, though I'm not strongly against it. I just prefer not to have things like this. My teen girls don't use any makeup of any kind yet, either.

And for the record, when my ds2 sees me put on lipstick and asks me to put some on him, I don't mind dabbing it on his lips. grin.gif
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Posted: Oct 24 2010, 12:42 AM


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my girls have makeupand occasionally nail polish and tons of costumes. they want barbies but i dont let even though mine are all still in my grammas basement.

the thing that is hard in our house is earings. i hate (no offense) little girls in earings, it just looks wrong to me. like "sexualization of the child" wrong. i have always said for your bas mitsva. which we have further clarified to mean 11th birthday so that any infections and "training earings" will all be memories for the big day. but whenever anytjhing is hard for my dd 7 she sais something like "if only i had earings." but i just dont think this is something i can budge on. it is too big of a deal for me. and i also dont want to do it untill she is old enough to take care of them herself. that just seems practical to me. does any one else have strong opinions on this one way or another?
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gr8
Posted: Oct 24 2010, 01:14 AM


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QUOTE (LearningFromExperience @ Feb 25 2010, 05:20 PM)
In other words - same thing as guns: role playing that does not turn into reality.

That statement is making me think blink.gif

Are you talking about kids' role playing in general, or specifically in these cases? That kids' role playing has no effect on who they grow up to be?
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LearningFromExperience
Posted: Oct 24 2010, 05:57 AM


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Be, yes, do - no.
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gr8
Posted: Oct 24 2010, 08:44 AM


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You've lost me there smile.gif Care to explain?
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Batyah
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toy makeup i don't let because o fthe toxins in them.


the girls have lip gloss and i don't wear makeup unless i can find something that is toxin free. so far all i have is burt's bees lip gloss

i think there is mascara that is eco-health friendly but finding it in israel - highly unlikely!


also glitter i don't let esp for purim time because you can seriously injure your cornea if it gets on your eye - i have to fight my DH on this one since he always gets made up ffor purim smile.gif
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LearningFromExperience
Posted: Oct 25 2010, 01:33 PM


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QUOTE (gr8 @ Oct 24 2010, 08:44 AM)
You've lost me there smile.gif Care to explain?

It doesn't affect what they'll do. If a boy plays with swords, doesn't mean that he'll chop people's heads off when he grows up. If a girl is a frilly ballerina at 3 yo, doesn't mean that she'll want to wear ballet slippers when she's 15.

But I do think it affects who they become, just not in the obvious way. If a boy fights monsters at 5, he'll protest against injustice at 15. If a girl plays at being beautiful at 5, she'll compliment her friends on their new clothes at 15.
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