Title: Early PL and day care
elmo&zoe - August 30, 2007 05:55 AM (GMT)
DS is sort of potty learning. He announces when he's making (sometimes before but not always), sits on the potty some of the time, always poops on the potty.
He still misses a lot, and pees wherever he's standing, but he clearly has a sense of what's going on.
On Sunday he's going back to DC and I'm debating what to do. Should I send him in a diaper for now and just take it off at home? Should I tell her we're PLing and she's got to work with me? Should I not insist and wait until after the chagim?
I can't make up my mind what to do. :help
LearningFromExperience - August 30, 2007 06:50 AM (GMT)
I usually send them out of the house "in dry underwear" when they've demonstrated being able to stay dry for several hours at a time.
You should discuss this with the ganenet. It's not their first time, and they'll be able to advise you on what they're able to contribute.
elmo&zoe - August 30, 2007 03:02 PM (GMT)
That's what I was hoping would happen by now anyway, but he's not there yet.
Maybe I'll use the chagim and hope he's on track by then.
Still thinking. :headscratch
LearningFromExperience - August 30, 2007 04:23 PM (GMT)
See my previous entry in the "fear of toilets" thread about the "dry underwear cheerleading method".
A viable temporary option is to wear a diaper in gan and underwear at home.
It is unlikely that a person that age would be able to deal with the transition to gan and also remember to stay dry.
It sounds like it'll all work itself out soon enough anyway.
Happy Mom - August 30, 2007 05:47 PM (GMT)
What about using pull ups as a bridge between diapers and underwear? That way if he wants to use the toilet, he can pull them down just like underwear, and if he doesn't, it's not a big mess for the staff to take care of.
elmo&zoe - August 30, 2007 06:16 PM (GMT)
LFE, I read the thread, I like the idea, but I'm not sure it'll work. DS is only 17 months old, a little young for that kind of motivation, I think. I'm pretty sure I don't want to go into the reward system, I don't think I need it.
I like the idea of underwear because meanwhile he's just been running around naked so it doesn't bother him as much.
As for the pullups, Happy Mom, he doesn't know how to pull pants on and off yet. Aside from that, I have 3 packages of diapers and a bunch of cloth, and I really, REALLY don't feel like buying something else. DH has this idea that we won't have to buy any more diapers for a while, and I'll be very happy if that works. Cloth for daytime until he's out of diapers and sposies for night time so long as it's needed.
LearningFromExperience - August 30, 2007 06:41 PM (GMT)
17 mo is rather young ... I thought you said 22 mo. He might know all about elimination, but will he be able to tell someone that he needs to go, consistently? Will "dry underwear" be important enough for him to stop playing and run to the bathroom?
Winter's coming, with extra layers, so it will only get harder, not easier.
Maybe you're better off waiting until Pessach, like all good Israeli children ;)
My youngest ds, also started using the toilet fairly often when he was very young - we even have pictures of him sitting on the toilet at the hotel in Disney World, he was about 20 ms. And at the end of the summer, when he was 26 months, he insisted on using the toilet. He was ready to go out in dry underwear within 2 days, and was dry at night within weeks. Very impressive young man, he is. But that's the youngest I've had experience with.
Zephyr's youngest ds was younger; maybe she can tell you more.
Dina - August 31, 2007 12:35 AM (GMT)
i wouldnt add the stress of trying to stay dry in school- but i would ask the teacher to maybe ask him and help him go when he asks/or looks likes he needs to
Yehudis - August 31, 2007 03:31 AM (GMT)
One of my kids toilet trained herself at about 22 months, but that only worked when she wasn't wearing any underwear. I used to let her run around in a dress without underwear, and she would go to the bathroom. Whenever I tried to put underwear on her, she would make right in the underwear, until about 2.5. Yes, it was a really long transition :).
elmo&zoe - August 31, 2007 05:33 AM (GMT)
Yes, he's young, I know, but I don't want to wait until next year.
He clearly knows when he's making, he's had days when he's very good about announcing and sitting on the potty.
I do know kids who were out of diapers at his age, and I want to catch the end of the summer to give him as much diaper free time.
elmo&zoe - September 1, 2007 08:23 PM (GMT)
Ok, I translated wrong, he's actually 19 months. Still young, but not so.
I think he knows when he has to go, but I'm not sure the metapelet will understand him on time necessarily. I might send him in diapers, and keep them off at home, today was actually pretty good.
I'm hoping within a few weeks both he and the metapelet will be ready for him to be in underwear there too.
Karapooz - September 2, 2007 02:01 AM (GMT)
I'd say go for it. Don't wait. As long as you're not pushing and he's blazing the trail here, it's great.
My 17 m.o. (not 19 ;) ) warns me right before he makes, usually too late to take him to the potty. But he knows. He tells me pee pee in potty, but sometimes refuses to sit.
Keep him in dipes in day care. First establish a good routine at home.
elmo&zoe - October 10, 2007 07:34 AM (GMT)
On Sukkos we had him out of diapers as much as possible, and he clearly got the hang of it. He's been out of dipes at day care too since we came back from vacation, and it's going well. He's really getting the hang of it. :)
LearningFromExperience - October 10, 2007 09:20 PM (GMT)
Awesome! Kol HaKavod to him!
Chavelamomela - October 11, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
Great! My ds just started the day-care portion of his PLing. On sunday, in our house, he wore dry underwear for 6 hours!!!
(We skipped the whole pull-ups stage and just bought him underwear. So it's either diaper or underwear, but no in-between training pants.)
Zephyr - October 11, 2007 08:02 AM (GMT)
Glad to hear it's going well!