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 New York Islanders Off-Season Game Plan, All topics concerning the offseason
Snowman
Posted: May 3 2012, 05:16 PM


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In an ideal world, the Islanders would be able to add a top six forward and a top four defenceman, but even if they can't secure high-end talents through trades or free agency, there is much to be gained by improving the bottom six forwards and bottom half of the defence depth chart. Some of that improvement could be the development of prospects, but if the playoffs are an objective for the 2012-2013 season, adding proven NHL talent has to be part of the plan.


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Though the Islanders have not been able to land premier free agents, they have done very well in recent years finding value in the market, getting overlooked talent and getting tremendous return on investment. Moulson and Parenteau are prime examples. It's entirely possible that the Islanders could pull another rabbit out of the free agent hat, but if the Islanders are going to make a jump that would create playoff expectations, they will have to pay the going rate -- or even more than market rate -- to secure proven NHL players.

The challenge for the Islanders is to have some urgency to take that next step in their development. That doesn't mean abandoning the future, but there needs to be an end game; an expected timeline for when this core is going to at least compete for a place in the postseason.


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The first four years of Josh Bailey's career have been marked by inconsistency, but this isn't altogether unusual for a young player. Still just 22-years-old, Bailey finished the year with 18 points in his last 20 games. That could be late-season fool's gold, or it could be the sign of a young player turning the corner in his development.  If the Islanders want to really establish Bailey's offensive presence, then he needs to find a role among the top six forwards and play more than 15 minutes per game.


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Niederreiter was kept in the NHL rather than returned to junior, but after one goal and a minus-29 rating in 55 games, it's hard to imagine that he wouldn't have developed more as a dominant player with Portland in the Western Hockey League. It's possible that Niederreiter will simply rebound and play a productive role for the Isles next season, but he also may need some time in the AHL, where he can get used to handling the puck again so that he doesn't necessarily have to be sentenced to a career of fourth-line work.


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Those are three solid returning pieces for the Islanders' blueline, but this is an opportunity for improvement. Prospects Matt Donovan and Calvin DeHaan may challenge for spots, but the Isles also could use some free agent upgrades.

It seems unlikey that the Islanders would get any marquee attractions (say, like Ryan Suter) on defence, but they have room to add bodies and could reasonably add some solid pros with good offers.

A couple of Michal Rozsival, Carlo Colaiacovo, Bryan Allen, Shane O'Brien, Cory Sarich or Greg Zanon would be better than what the Islanders are losing to unrestricted free agency and could make life easier for the goaltenders.


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According to www.capgeek.com, the Islanders have approximately $36.2M committed to the 2012-2013 salary cap for 14 players. Check out my potential 2012-2013 Islanders roster on Cap Geek here.

Needs: Three top nine forwards, one top four defenceman, two more defencemen, backup goaltender.

What I said the Islanders needed last year: One top nine forward, one top four defenceman, starting goaltender.


There is some more filler in between if you want to check out the link.


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Posted: May 3 2012, 05:19 PM


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As usual, Cullen is spot on in his analysis. Every year he hits the nail on the head, and every year Wang and Snow respond with cap circumvention and a losing team. Wont be any different this year.


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late-season fool's gold


What a priceless line for describing that illusion we all fall for after we're out of playoff contention, year after year after year(except Depot of course). Not just in Bailey, but everyone individually and as a whole team.

late-season fool's gold, rofl.gif


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There staying the course and I like that - smart
Read my lips:
NO NEW TALENTED VETERAN PLAYER SIGNINGS

There staying the course and I like that - smart

Once Bailey and Okoman and the rest of the pack reach development status
of elite Russian army elite hockey style players

There staying the course and I like that - smart

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Posted: May 4 2012, 11:12 PM


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Hows that Petrov will be here soon and Garth knows what hes doing with him going for those kool aiders out there lol
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QUOTE (Webb20 @ May 4 2012, 07:45 AM)
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late-season fool's gold


What a priceless line for describing that illusion we all fall for after we're out of playoff contention, year after year after year(except Depot of course). Not just in Bailey, but everyone individually and as a whole team.

late-season fool's gold, rofl.gif

I don't fall for it either Webby.....not at all.

I know what a fraud this franchise is.
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This team needs to show me something, and soon. Like everybody else, I have zero confidence that they will do anything different than they have before. Low level cheap talent for us, while everybody else loads up on quality FA's.

One thing we have going against is, and have for what seems like forever, is the reluctance of any FA's to come here. be it the barn, the GM, the owner or the money (probably all of them), until this clown of an owner makes an offer to a high level FA that blows the others out of the water, we are looking at the same old same old.

Anybody think it won't be business as usual on the island of woe?


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You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.
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QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 10:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

I propose a new board protocol -- any time Kate Murray's staff, spokespeople, etc. are mentioned indirectly, use the term "flying monkeys"


As in:

One of Kate Murray's flying monkeys posted the following on Twitter....

[oh-wee-oh--oh-ooooh-omm]




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QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.
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QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Bingo. This wasn't a team worth seeing 22 of the past 25 years (arguably).


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Posted: May 7 2012, 02:21 PM


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QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.


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Posted: May 7 2012, 02:36 PM


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QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

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"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."


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"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

QUOTE
"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."

I do not begrudge her the leverage she used. She had it and she used it.

After all these years, though, the deal is dead. So bow out gracefully and show some class. Why bring up the Rags or even comment on it now after all this time.


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QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

QUOTE
"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."

I do not begrudge her the leverage she used. She had it and she used it.

After all these years, though, the deal is dead. So bow out gracefully and show some class. Why bring up the Rags or even comment on it now after all this time.

Now I look at this as I look at her counter-offer combined with a refusal to turn the LHP down.....

Wang, TAKE THE HINT!

(women are subtle - though put a donut on the ground by schoolkids and Murray will maul one of the tikes)

1. Make the team relevant.
2. Try to make a valid offer THEN.

But many get lost with her complimenting the Rangers. I just see how obvious she is (and she agrees with about all of us).

You want us to help you, you do some helping yourself first.

Then we'll talk.

Snow is rumored (by dickless I mean nameless blogger) to be after a top defenseman (to trade for Yakupov). The NYR have rebuilt and are winning. Phoenix is done rebuilding and is in it. LAK has finished their rebuild and is winning. We're lauding Capuano and Snow's jobs and a steady cap floor evasion endeavor.

Murray's message is to get off your vibrating couch with donut coaster (Snow, you fat POS) and get winning already. Make the Isles worth keeping.



I know, it lacks the hatred of Ms.Piggy aspect, but if Hillary Clinton told me the obvious, I'd be pissed I didn't already know - and adhere.


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"But the Coliseum became a repository for all the team's troubles, a convenient scapegoat. There were suggestions that no major free agent ever would set foot in such a decrepit place. We have two words for anyone making that argument: Fenway Park. History says free agents would play in an old boxcar if they got enough money and had a chance to win." - Mark Herrmann
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QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 04:05 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

QUOTE
"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."

I do not begrudge her the leverage she used. She had it and she used it.

After all these years, though, the deal is dead. So bow out gracefully and show some class. Why bring up the Rags or even comment on it now after all this time.

Now I look at this as I look at her counter-offer combined with a refusal to turn the LHP down.....

Wang, TAKE THE HINT!

(women are subtle - though put a donut on the ground by schoolkids and Murray will maul one of the tikes)

1. Make the team relevant.
2. Try to make a valid offer THEN.

But many get lost with her complimenting the Rangers. I just see how obvious she is (and she agrees with about all of us).

You want us to help you, you do some helping yourself first.

Then we'll talk.

Snow is rumored (by dickless I mean nameless blogger) to be after a top defenseman (to trade for Yakupov). The NYR have rebuilt and are winning. Phoenix is done rebuilding and is in it. LAK has finished their rebuild and is winning. We're lauding Capuano and Snow's jobs and a steady cap floor evasion endeavor.

Murray's message is to get off your vibrating couch with donut coaster (Snow, you fat POS) and get winning already. Make the Isles worth keeping.



I know, it lacks the hatred of Ms.Piggy aspect, but if Hillary Clinton told me the obvious, I'd be pissed I didn't already know - and adhere.

Saying Kate Murray is right is like putting lipstick on a pig!


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QUOTE (dr_eagle @ May 8 2012, 07:44 AM)
QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 04:05 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 7 2012, 02:36 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ May 7 2012, 02:21 PM)
QUOTE (puckhead @ May 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
QUOTE (Overspeed @ May 7 2012, 09:50 AM)
You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

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"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."

I do not begrudge her the leverage she used. She had it and she used it.

After all these years, though, the deal is dead. So bow out gracefully and show some class. Why bring up the Rags or even comment on it now after all this time.

Now I look at this as I look at her counter-offer combined with a refusal to turn the LHP down.....

Wang, TAKE THE HINT!

(women are subtle - though put a donut on the ground by schoolkids and Murray will maul one of the tikes)

1. Make the team relevant.
2. Try to make a valid offer THEN.

But many get lost with her complimenting the Rangers. I just see how obvious she is (and she agrees with about all of us).

You want us to help you, you do some helping yourself first.

Then we'll talk.

Snow is rumored (by dickless I mean nameless blogger) to be after a top defenseman (to trade for Yakupov). The NYR have rebuilt and are winning. Phoenix is done rebuilding and is in it. LAK has finished their rebuild and is winning. We're lauding Capuano and Snow's jobs and a steady cap floor evasion endeavor.

Murray's message is to get off your vibrating couch with donut coaster (Snow, you fat POS) and get winning already. Make the Isles worth keeping.



I know, it lacks the hatred of Ms.Piggy aspect, but if Hillary Clinton told me the obvious, I'd be pissed I didn't already know - and adhere.

Saying Kate Murray is right is like putting lipstick on a pig!

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Posted: May 8 2012, 03:14 PM


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QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ May 8 2012, 01:39 PM)
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You know its bad when Nassau County says Isles needed to be more exciting like the Rangers...I think Katie Murray and one of her spokes people actually said that last week.

As much as I hate Murray......she has a point there.

An arena deal would likely be in the bag if this was a fun, exciting team right now where masses of people want to go to to spend money 41 times a year.

It all comes down to business and right now the Isles aren't good business to many factions including Nassau County government and taxpayers.

Obviously, a team that had won over the past 10 years, if not longer would have had an easier time getting everyone on board and completing this project.

But please, Murray is intentionally trying to tweak Wang here. So let's take this with a grain of salt. The bottom line is, whether she admits it or not, the Coliseum has 41 dates already filled out every season and brings in cash flow. Cash, that the County and Township need. If not for the Coliseum or reasonable alternative, everyone involved would lose.

So if she's a Rags fan, go to the Garden - otherwise, she should shut her trap because I have heard all I want to from her.

It's her leverage.

Wang wants new schools built and road expansion and environmental usage increased for the LHP she turned down (but gave a smaller, more locality friendly plan back to bargain - but Wang wouldn't bargain).

Wang wanted a taxpayer floated arena - for a miserably misrun team. It failed like a Reasoner breakaway.

So Wang, with NO leverage, must go smaller.

If you or I owned the team, would it not be SMART (can't use the f*ing word with Wang in charge) to build a winner that sells out and try again? Make it something TO BE MISSED and there goes Murray's leverage. She goes from saving taxpayers money to losing a wanted and hot commodity.


That's the rationale I get from her words.


And said rationale also expands into Wang wanting to move the worst team in the league over the past decade to Brooklyn or Queens. He has no leverage. Think Ranter doesn't know this when they discuss a deal?

QUOTE
"So you want 35% to show off Pandolfo and Reasoner....lemme think about that. What is your little Snow kiddo doing this summer to sell more of my seats?"

"We're very excited about our prospects."

"Nino looked very...."

"OK, I'll take the 8%."

I do not begrudge her the leverage she used. She had it and she used it.

After all these years, though, the deal is dead. So bow out gracefully and show some class. Why bring up the Rags or even comment on it now after all this time.

Now I look at this as I look at her counter-offer combined with a refusal to turn the LHP down.....

Wang, TAKE THE HINT!

(women are subtle - though put a donut on the ground by schoolkids and Murray will maul one of the tikes)

1. Make the team relevant.
2. Try to make a valid offer THEN.

But many get lost with her complimenting the Rangers. I just see how obvious she is (and she agrees with about all of us).

You want us to help you, you do some helping yourself first.

Then we'll talk.

Snow is rumored (by dickless I mean nameless blogger) to be after a top defenseman (to trade for Yakupov). The NYR have rebuilt and are winning. Phoenix is done rebuilding and is in it. LAK has finished their rebuild and is winning. We're lauding Capuano and Snow's jobs and a steady cap floor evasion endeavor.

Murray's message is to get off your vibrating couch with donut coaster (Snow, you fat POS) and get winning already. Make the Isles worth keeping.



I know, it lacks the hatred of Ms.Piggy aspect, but if Hillary Clinton told me the obvious, I'd be pissed I didn't already know - and adhere.

Saying Kate Murray is right is like putting lipstick on a pig!

user posted image
Well that better be one charming mutha ****ing pig.

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Posted: May 8 2012, 04:51 PM


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I think Led has it right. The monkey is laughing. Garth and Wang, leading the Islanders to the next level. rofl.gif
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