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 Who Will Be The #1 Goalie By Season's End?, Make Your Prediction Now
 
Who Will Be The #1 Goalie By Season's End?
DP [ 7 ]  [14.29%]
Montoya [ 26 ]  [53.06%]
Nabokov [ 6 ]  [12.24%]
Poulin [ 9 ]  [18.37%]
Someone else (God help us) [ 1 ]  [2.04%]
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tsharaf
Posted on Sep 29 2011, 02:27 PM


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The 3 goalie system is a short term fix. It won't last long and every one knows it.

My personal choice is Poulin. Every chance I get to see him, he impresses me the most. Don't forget what Patrick Roy himself said about him, too. I just hope his kneecaps cooperate.


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QUOTE (tsharaf @ Sep 29 2011, 02:27 PM)
My personal choice is Poulin. Every chance I get to see him, he impresses me the most. Don't forget what Patrick Roy himself said about him, too. I just hope his kneecaps cooperate.

too many guys ahead of him. Can't imagine we'll be as unlucky as last year with injuries. That said, I think dp, montoya, nabby al will start season. DP will either go down or Nabby will be traded and I think Al will be number 1, though if DP goes, I can see more 50/50 or nabby taking it over

For now, my best guess is Al.
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Posted on Sep 29 2011, 03:38 PM


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My personal choice is Poulin. As Sutter alluded to above, there are too many guys ahead of him right now. However, if by the end of the season DP is hurt and Nabby is gone, it's a no-brainer for me. If Poulin is dressing for the Isles, he'll play. He's the best goalie out of the whole bunch, just needs more polishing.


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come opening night...rick dipietro will get the nod...by the end of the season..rick dipietro will still be the starting goalie..yep, heard it hear first..rick dipietro will actually play a whole season no injuries, and he will lead the team to the playoffs..


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Posted on Sep 30 2011, 07:06 AM


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While I would like it to be Poulin I am simply playing the percentages. I believe Nabby will be traded, DP will be injured and Montoya will be in the pipes backed up by The Wall.

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Posted on Sep 30 2011, 03:31 PM


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QUOTE (tsharaf @ Sep 29 2011, 02:27 PM)
The 3 goalie system is a short term fix. It won't last long and every one knows it.

My personal choice is Poulin. Every chance I get to see him, he impresses me the most. Don't forget what Patrick Roy himself said about him, too. I just hope his kneecaps cooperate.

By season's end? No way. I don't want to see Poulin in an Isles uniform at all this year unless it is due to injuries in front of him.

While I think he's def our goalie of the future, he's not the goalie of right now. He overplays angles and then has to flop around alot to overcome that...sound like anyone else you know that people claim is too hyper aggressive in angles?

If everyone claims that DP is an undisciplined goalie which I won't dispute, then why would we repeat the mistake of bringing up Poulin too soon when he definitely has to work off some rough edges...AND prove he can stay healthy.

Right now we have Al, Nabby and DP in front of him. Unless we are stuck with the DP of last year and either Nabby or Al goes down leaving us with 1 legit nhler in the pipes, then there is no way he should come up.

All the crying on this board about rushing Bailey...now we want to rush Poulin?


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QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Sep 30 2011, 03:31 PM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ Sep 29 2011, 02:27 PM)
The 3 goalie system is a short term fix. It won't last long and every one knows it.

My personal choice is Poulin. Every chance I get to see him, he impresses me the most. Don't forget what Patrick Roy himself said about him, too. I just hope his kneecaps cooperate.

By season's end? No way. I don't want to see Poulin in an Isles uniform at all this year unless it is due to injuries in front of him.

While I think he's def our goalie of the future, he's not the goalie of right now. He overplays angles and then has to flop around alot to overcome that...sound like anyone else you know that people claim is too hyper aggressive in angles?

If everyone claims that DP is an undisciplined goalie which I won't dispute, then why would we repeat the mistake of bringing up Poulin too soon when he definitely has to work off some rough edges...AND prove he can stay healthy.

Right now we have Al, Nabby and DP in front of him. Unless we are stuck with the DP of last year and either Nabby or Al goes down leaving us with 1 legit nhler in the pipes, then there is no way he should come up.

All the crying on this board about rushing Bailey...now we want to rush Poulin?

Exactly.

Eat your flat soufflé's folks since many wanted to rush DP and let this one rise to a spectacular level before opening the oven door again - because we just can't wait (AGAIN!).


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In my opinion our best chances for making the playoffs and winning at least one round are with Nabokov being our #1 goaltender and Montoya backing him up.

Eventually I'd like to see Poulin taking over but not this year as I want an experienced NHL goaltender to help end my suffering asap !


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QUOTE (CANADA @ Oct 1 2011, 09:25 AM)
In my opinion our best chances for making the playoffs and winning at least one round are with Nabokov being our #1 goaltender and Montoya backing him up.

Eventually I'd like to see Poulin taking over but not this year as I want an experienced NHL goaltender to help end my suffering asap !

From the looks of things, it looks like DP and Nabby (at least to start).

Poulin at the Bridge and the Big Cubano on the sidelines.

To their credit, Nabby and DP have both played well in the action I have seen thus far. If DP can replicate yesterday's effort 60x, I would be very happy. I just hope its not a one-time effort against the Devil nobodys.


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For me, the question is
When will we have a legitimate #1 goalie again.

Reason I say that is, as long as DP keeps playing well enough to stick around
Only for the inevitable to happen...
We will never have anything more than BS INSURANCE policy goalies on hand
Until he can make another go of it.

I'd love a miracle for any one them to be a # 1.
but the whole scenario is really a #2 because DP will
Always be in the equation.



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QUOTE (tsharaf @ Oct 1 2011, 09:52 AM)
QUOTE (CANADA @ Oct 1 2011, 09:25 AM)
In my opinion our best chances for making the playoffs and winning at least one round are with Nabokov being our #1 goaltender and Montoya backing him up.

Eventually I'd like to see Poulin taking over but not this year as I want an experienced NHL goaltender to help end my suffering asap !

From the looks of things, it looks like DP and Nabby (at least to start).

Poulin at the Bridge and the Big Cubano on the sidelines.

To their credit, Nabby and DP have both played well in the action I have seen thus far. If DP can replicate yesterday's effort 60x, I would be very happy. I just hope its not a one-time effort against the Devil nobodys.

No offense, but even if we got the 2004 version of DP I don't want him playing 60 games. Until we have a rock solid D in front of our goalies, I don't want to have the nonsense we've seen in years past.

Anyone else think it is a coincidence that we play goalies 13-25 games straight facing over 35 shots a night and they break down? And not just DP!!! There are seveal we can throw on that list and some were only here for just one season.

I'd be very happy playing our number one goalie, whomever it turns out to be, at a 50 start rate for the first half of the season and then turn up the number of starts after the all-star break.

We first must see what we have playing in front of our goalies before we start saying "so and so should start 60-65-72 games". If we are facing 35+ shots a night and our goalie has to stand on his head each night to keep us in them, you better build in some days off in that sched. No need to run another guy into the ground with injury.

Or do we just keep doing the same mistakes and not learn from them?


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QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Oct 1 2011, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ Oct 1 2011, 09:52 AM)
QUOTE (CANADA @ Oct 1 2011, 09:25 AM)
In my opinion our best chances for making the playoffs and winning at least one round are with Nabokov being our #1 goaltender and Montoya backing him up.

Eventually I'd like to see Poulin taking over but not this year as I want an experienced NHL goaltender to help end my suffering asap !

From the looks of things, it looks like DP and Nabby (at least to start).

Poulin at the Bridge and the Big Cubano on the sidelines.

To their credit, Nabby and DP have both played well in the action I have seen thus far. If DP can replicate yesterday's effort 60x, I would be very happy. I just hope its not a one-time effort against the Devil nobodys.

No offense, but even if we got the 2004 version of DP I don't want him playing 60 games. Until we have a rock solid D in front of our goalies, I don't want to have the nonsense we've seen in years past.

Anyone else think it is a coincidence that we play goalies 13-25 games straight facing over 35 shots a night and they break down? And not just DP!!! There are seveal we can throw on that list and some were only here for just one season.

I'd be very happy playing our number one goalie, whomever it turns out to be, at a 50 start rate for the first half of the season and then turn up the number of starts after the all-star break.

We first must see what we have playing in front of our goalies before we start saying "so and so should start 60-65-72 games". If we are facing 35+ shots a night and our goalie has to stand on his head each night to keep us in them, you better build in some days off in that sched. No need to run another guy into the ground with injury.

Or do we just keep doing the same mistakes and not learn from them?

And here I thought he be alright with DP 60 TIMES better than last night. fing20.gif oh, 60 starts.nono.gif

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Does anyone care to admit DP's had a chronic injury his entire career? His medical record goes back to Boston. You can't pretend he's a 60 start guy (as Webby points out accurately) as he's always worn down by his fifth or sixth start.

He won't admit injury until it's chronic, comes back early by (likely) telling the docs he isn't hurting and spins into a cast like Wonderwoman.

When he was healthy, he had two good games, two or three 'blah' games and then was AWFUL. Rinse. Repeat.

He's at best been a tandem goalie but was labeled and pushed as a Brodeuresque goalie. Sorry, but when he was at his best for a year and a half, he still needed someone breathing down his neck.

I say 40-50 max, but that's assuming he doesn't get hurt.

I also say I want a new transmission, a set of pans and a wok and, oh! Scarlett Johansson with a mute button, but that's assuming there is a Santa Clause.


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Ricky D is #1 baby!!!! just got to teach that kid to watch out for the devastating right hook to chops


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QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ Oct 1 2011, 01:36 PM)
Does anyone care to admit DP's had a chronic injury his entire career? His medical record goes back to Boston. You can't pretend he's a 60 start guy (as Webby points out accurately) as he's always worn down by his fifth or sixth start.

He won't admit injury until it's chronic, comes back early by (likely) telling the docs he isn't hurting and spins into a cast like Wonderwoman.

When he was healthy, he had two good games, two or three 'blah' games and then was AWFUL. Rinse. Repeat.

He's at best been a tandem goalie but was labeled and pushed as a Brodeuresque goalie. Sorry, but when he was at his best for a year and a half, he still needed someone breathing down his neck.

I say 40-50 max, but that's assuming he doesn't get hurt.

I also say I want a new transmission, a set of pans and a wok and, oh! Scarlett Johansson with a mute button, but that's assuming there is a Santa Clause.

yea we all know this but even though we the fans know RD is a not a #1 anymore he's inmovable for 2 reasons #1 the contract and #2 he is a leader in the locker room.

after RD got his face busted that's when The Team said THAT'S IT and dished out a good ol beat down to the pens that speaks laud and clear that Rick DiPietro is huge part of this Islanders team.

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QUOTE (rst033 @ Oct 1 2011, 02:18 PM)
after RD got his face busted that's when The Team said THAT'S IT and dished out a good ol beat down to the pens that speaks laud and clear that Rick DiPietro is huge part of this Islanders team.

That's actually a very good point.


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I think the refs inaction spoke more than the "leader" getting a beat down.

All evidence points to that, not Rick's "leadership."

The WHOLE team was being victimized and whether it be Rick or Hilbert or Brutal, the Islander got injured, the opposing bench made a mockery on TV and the refs did squat.

But hey, I never saw DP as a bigtime character guy. Still don't.


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OTH, you make a good point and I just want to add one thing.
One of DP's biggest flaws is his belief that he can make more a of a difference
than he can.

Like an elite sharpshooter who always wants the puck but sometimes hogs it too much and creates a bad turnover. Countless times we see when the going gets tough, instead of making the safe play, he tries for the home run pass on the powerplay,
when 2 guts are changing leaving our left winger accepting a long outlet with 2 defensemen and a forward bearing down on him.

By seasons end, my guess is Poulin will be the #1.
Nabakov will be dealt for a 3rd rounder if lucky. I don't expect the balding ego boy Montoya to be that good and when DP is being made excuses for around Thanksgiving time we'll hopefully have enough season left to make up some ground as Poulin improves.

That's my guess.



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QUOTE (stevedepot @ Oct 1 2011, 02:47 PM)
OTH, you make a good point and I just want to add one thing.
One of DP's biggest flaws is his belief that he can make more a of a difference
than he can.

Like an elite sharpshooter who always wants the puck but sometimes hogs it too much and creates a bad turnover. Countless times we see when the going gets tough, instead of making the safe play, he tries for the home run pass on the powerplay,
when 2 guts are changing leaving our left winger accepting a long outlet with 2 defensemen and a forward bearing down on him.

By seasons end, my guess is Poulin will be the #1.
Nabakov will be dealt for a 3rd rounder if lucky. I don't expect the balding ego boy Montoya to be that good and when DP is being made excuses for around Thanksgiving time we'll hopefully have enough season left to make up some ground as Poulin improves.

That's my guess.

I can recall vividly the vast number of times the defenseman is back, about to corrale the puck and D*P**** steals it, blocks his trajectory and causes a mess. I also recall Aucoin, Hamrlik, Streit, KJ and others ALL having words on camera while trying to unsuccessfully grab the puck because D*P**** decides he's the man to do the job.

I think Montoya will surprise and DP will not. Nabby will remain as Wang can ill afford to not make the playoffs or show progress as the Mayan 2015 calendar is ticking away.


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