Garth Snow, Our beloved GM

I agree.

College hockey does not breed toughness, if anything it shelters them from it without fighting and full cages. They are lightyears behind jr players in that regard. Talent is one thing HOW they bring it is another.

I will not buy season tickets until Crapuano is gone. That is a guarantee. Also I'd need to see other things happen.

You keep mentioning IF Wang would spend money we'd be good. IF. If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Wang isn't going to spend money, so it's irrelevant to bring it up. His silence spoke LOUDLY in that interview when broached that question. Danced around it quite nicely.

These players aren't having anything pulled over their eyes. They're being given good contracts with top 6 ice time that would be less with any other team, with the exception of Tavares. Moulson would be a 2nd line player on a good team. Same with Parenteau. And we still don't know how much of their success can be directly applied to Tavares, especially with Moulson. So why would Moulson leave JT?

All last season I talked about how badly we needed a 2nd line center. I got destroyed on IM by their know-it-all fans because Nielsen was "a 2nd line center" and anyone who disagreed didn't know "anything about hockey.". Well now, those fools now echo the same things they killed me for last year. And our GM doesn't address that issue and won't until Strome is ready. Or maybe even when he's not ready.

KG, I get what you're saying. What you said about Snow setting up the next GM for success is correct, and coincidentally I said the same exact thing yesterday on one of these threads somewhere. I understand very, very well that it wouldn't take a lot of new players to make this team good. Just the right ones in key areas. But along with that is the need for a new coach. We're already going to have training camp and at least the first two months with Crappy next year.

We'll see what they do this summer.

This analogy is awesome, but as a semi-professional logician, I feel compelled to point out that if your aunt had balls, your uncle would be pretty open-minded, at least....

you said that to me here in this thread... you see I do pay attention and I hear everything that you say.

I also dont think he will spend so I wont hold my breath. But if he did and gave garth a little rope, wow what a wonderful world this would be.

I would personally take two top defenders before a comparable (in cost) defender and 2nd line center. but that is just me.

Not to nitpick, but Snow did spend.

Reasoner
Rolston
Staios
Eaton

That's $12M spent.

Get three $4M players and we have a defense and a solid top two lines and Haley all season. Hunter plays, gets traded, whatever - it beats "I don't get no playing time" beanbagger.


Anyone can spend a million if they have it. It'd be nice to see a return, though. Neil Smith wasn't amazing but he would have gotten us into the playoffs I all but guarantee. Imagine raising the bar and getting BETTER?

And we'd still be under the cap floor. Ironic. Wang refuses to spend money AND MAKE MONEY.

So....who's still investing their money on Wang expecting happiness or satisfaction?

You beat me to it. Garf had money to spend. He needed to get to the cap floor. Now he didn't have Brad Richards money to spend like the Rags, but he had money. He chose to spend it on, Reasoner, Rolston, Pandolfo, and Staios. I hate to see what this guy would do if he had real money to spend. Scott Gomez, welcome to the NY Islanders.

you said that to me here in this thread... you see I do pay attention and I hear everything that you say.

I also dont think he will spend so I wont hold my breath. But if he did and gave garth a little rope, wow what a wonderful world this would be.

I would personally take two top defenders before a comparable (in cost) defender and 2nd line center. but that is just me.

Not to nitpick, but Snow did spend.

Reasoner
Rolston
Staios
Eaton

That's $12M spent.

Get three $4M players and we have a defense and a solid top two lines and Haley all season. Hunter plays, gets traded, whatever - it beats "I don't get no playing time" beanbagger.


Anyone can spend a million if they have it. It'd be nice to see a return, though. Neil Smith wasn't amazing but he would have gotten us into the playoffs I all but guarantee. Imagine raising the bar and getting BETTER?

And we'd still be under the cap floor. Ironic. Wang refuses to spend money AND MAKE MONEY.

So....who's still investing their money on Wang expecting happiness or satisfaction?

You beat me to it. Garf had money to spend. He needed to get to the cap floor. Now he didn't have Brad Richards money to spend like the Rags, but he had money. He chose to spend it on, Reasoner, Rolston, Pandolfo, and Staios. I hate to see what this guy would do if he had real money to spend. Scott Gomez, welcome to the NY Islanders.

Love you, bro!

Like everybody else I expect the same nonsense this off season that we have seen recently. Lots of talk but no action. Old, cheap vets that don't produce.

I agree with the statement that we are not really that far away if we spend wisely, but that ain't happening.

Welcome to the Islanders Mike Knuble.

Or some similar retread.

Just how many times can you listen to "When you improve the team, it isn’t spending only money. It’s bringing in the right talent."

Apparently some who are in the know can take this over and over and over and over and believe it every time. How dumb can some be. And then they write about it as if it's news. Ahh, to live in a fantasy world completely out of touch must be nice.

Well I'm going to protest words and praise action, so don't expect too much praise from me with regard to YellowSnow.

Just how many times can you listen to "When you improve the team, it isn�t spending only money. It�s bringing in the right talent."

Apparently some who are in the know can take this over and over and over and over and believe it every time. How dumb can some be. And then they write about it as if it's news. Ahh, to live in a fantasy world completely out of touch must be nice.

from that pro wrestling/video game geek webtard to the weetard to the snowtard and the latest purveyor of fantasy disguised as fact, NYIFANCENTRAL who is now trashing Justin Bourne's blog with his pro SnoWang rhetoric.


It's amazing that there are fans on twitter, facebook and all over lala land that buy all this rubbish from the liars we have running things.

Wang's wife's company Neulion benefitted from the entire league adapting that technology. Sure they made a profit. Not associated to ISLES revenue but you would think an owner who REALLY LOVED this franchise would hire NHL capable people and allow them to spend some of his earnings in other areasbesides SELF PROMOTING A GODDAMN LAND GRAB DEVELOPMENT PROJECT (LH).

Steve, it's the hardship sob story that keeps the lackey's in line. Oh poor Mr. Wang, savior of the Islanders, losing all his own money. But like you said, he owns Neulion and his wife runs it, so I bet their posterity is far outpacing his imaginary losses with the Islanders.

If he came out with 'we are doing ok" then everyone would look to him to spend his money on players, giveaway, hell even an arena, and he's just not going to do it. It's all a sham.

As you've seen in the Doghouse, I've crowned our emperor.....
CHAMPION OF SISSY HOCKEY,
DESTROYER OF THE FRANCHISE,
LAND GRABBING CHEAPO,
OWNER CHARLES WANG

And from the emperor comes the trickle down effect.
Not yellowsnow.
Piss. Same color, all the way down the line right to the very end, us fans.

Charles Wang, you're fooling no one (ok some idiots left) but seriously, no one.
Urine trouble ya bastid.

Oh I completely agree there. No doubt about that.

But it's almost like an extension of Wang's methodology, more like preference to be unconventional.

Snow, Milbury, Weight, Allen, Cappy, Lavy.....all Massachussetts guys. Snow was a college guy. It's called BIAS.

They love guys like them. The proof is in the pudding. So is some asbestos so don't eat it.

Just how many times can you listen to "When you improve the team, it isn�t spending only money. It�s bringing in the right talent."

Apparently some who are in the know can take this over and over and over and over and believe it every time. How dumb can some be. And then they write about it as if it's news. Ahh, to live in a fantasy world completely out of touch must be nice.

from that pro wrestling/video game geek webtard to the weetard to the snowtard and the latest purveyor of fantasy disguised as fact, NYIFANCENTRAL who is now trashing Justin Bourne's blog with his pro SnoWang rhetoric.


It's amazing that there are fans on twitter, facebook and all over lala land that buy all this rubbish from the liars we have running things.

Wang's wife's company Neulion benefitted from the entire league adapting that technology. Sure they made a profit. Not associated to ISLES revenue but you would think an owner who REALLY LOVED this franchise would hire NHL capable people and allow them to spend some of his earnings in other areasbesides SELF PROMOTING A GODDAMN LAND GRAB DEVELOPMENT PROJECT (LH).

OY! I keep leaving out Neulion! That, arena events, parking, concessions, advertising, the cable deal, not counted in his $20M a year losses. What a douche. NYIFanCentral and his/her ilk would be what, then?

We has no money.

I want to know how the Devils get a new arena, are always flirting with exceeding the cap, make the playoffs yet have the same Cable company carrying them as we do and have an arena full of empty seats like us?

Ask Corey Booker. I'm too lazy to link.

Jeff Vanderbeek is Spano revisited.

Ask Corey Booker. I'm too lazy to link.

Jeff Vanderbeek is Spano revisited.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/n...slams_devi.html

Love this quote

Just how many times can you listen to "When you improve the team, it isn�t spending only money. It�s bringing in the right talent."

Apparently some who are in the know can take this over and over and over and over and believe it every time. How dumb can some be. And then they write about it as if it's news. Ahh, to live in a fantasy world completely out of touch must be nice.

from that pro wrestling/video game geek webtard to the weetard to the snowtard and the latest purveyor of fantasy disguised as fact, NYIFANCENTRAL who is now trashing Justin Bourne's blog with his pro SnoWang rhetoric.


It's amazing that there are fans on twitter, facebook and all over lala land that buy all this rubbish from the liars we have running things.

Wang's wife's company Neulion benefitted from the entire league adapting that technology. Sure they made a profit. Not associated to ISLES revenue but you would think an owner who REALLY LOVED this franchise would hire NHL capable people and allow them to spend some of his earnings in other areasbesides SELF PROMOTING A GODDAMN LAND GRAB DEVELOPMENT PROJECT (LH).

OY! I keep leaving out Neulion! That, arena events, parking, concessions, advertising, the cable deal, not counted in his $20M a year losses. What a douche. NYIFanCentral and his/her ilk would be what, then?

We has no money.

Neulion revenue nearly $40million for 2011, growing at 20% annual pace, could overtake NYI* in 2-4 years....

Of course, if you look at the GAAP financials for the year, they are (trend alert) losing about $15million, down from a loss of $17 million prev year.

Maybe they need a new building....


NeuLion Reports $39.7M in Total Revenue for Fiscal 2011 (increase 20% YOY)

I brought up the neulion thing on another site and my words were taken out of context as if I tried to connect that to wangs EARNINGS on Isles.

The fact is, it's his wife's baby. They are VERY innovative and provide a great product that the entire league adapted.

They are profitable. It's not like this man is "bleeding money".
Just because he spend 20+ million or whatever the actual figures were in self promoting/hyping up the lighthouse doesn't mean he's a victim.

I get that the league prevents us (Devs and Ducks) from revenue sharing because of the big tv market we reside in. maybe the next cba changes that.
However, this owner is NOT bleeding money since he purchased this franchise.
The money he's lost, has been by his own stupidity.

But of course, cue in someone to chime in with the..

"but he saved our franchise..."

And, he found Garth Snow in the desert while he was wandering in search of a GM.
Sorry, I had to knock the thread back on topic.

Steve, I've been trying to make that point for years. Yes, the franchise BLEEDS money. That doesn't mean that Charles Wang BLEEDS money. If his fiscal year looks something like this (this is mostly fictional BTW):

Neulion: $40 million
Real Estate: $30 million
Islanders: -$20 million
Miscellaneous: $7 million

Overall, he's profiting $57 million in his year. Charles Wang the man isn't suffering. He's not going to be living in a box in an alley somewhere. If he was, he would have never bought this team to begin with.

Oh boy, there are some real doozies in this one:

Newsday: GM Snow doesn't expect roster shakeup

Fire away boys...

I don't think there could be a more depressing statement for any Islander fan.