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OMFG OMFG OMFG

O__________O

OMFG OMFG OMFG

-flail-

DO I SPY A NEEDLER RIFLE?!

AND A OLD SPARTAN LASER?!?!?!?!!?

AND DO I SEE BARS FOR NAMES FOR SQUAD-MATES=SQUAD BASED FPS?!?!?!?!



This post has been edited by HDread_Ackbar on Nov 6 2009, 07:58 PM

I THINK YOU DO.

I THINK THIS IS AWSOME.

I THINK I WILL SELL MY SOUL FOR THIS GAME.

-CANNOT RESIST HYPERVENTILATING-

OMFG! THAT IS GOING TO BE FRAGGING EPIC! CX

It needs ot be out... NAO! D:<

SPOILER: UNSC loses.

Seriously, thats why I'm not overly interested in this game. I already know the ending. I am going to play the BETA none-the-less, but I'm not going to be as excited about it as I was Halo 3.

This post has been edited by VerbotenDonkey on Nov 7 2009, 06:09 AM

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ZOMG, Halo: Reach images!

-reads small description of new weapons-

DAMN IT, THIS THING LOOKS AWESOME!
I CANT WAIT FOR THIS THING TO COME OUT!
HURRY UP BUNGIE AND RELEASE THE F***ING BETA!
ALSO, DONT F*** UP LIKE YOU DID WITH ODST!

Note to Self: KILL VERB

HERETIC!

EDIT: OMFG

Look in the last screen, I spy a list of words stating

Objective 1 goes in this space here.
Objective 2 goes in this space here.
Objective 3....etc.

Now, does this mean Bungie is full of lazy bastards who haven't put objective in yet, OR does it mean players can use a new updated version of Forge to make new epic Single Player maps?

This post has been edited by HDread_Ackbar on Nov 7 2009, 08:33 AM

Not gonna happen.
It's bungie. They're going to F*** this up. Again.


And again.
I've completely lost faith in their ability to create good games.
If I do get this(I have the beta because of ODST, which was epic fail), it'll be because my friends make me or because they actually /didn't/ F*** it up, which from what I've seen they already have.
They're doing what they did in halo wars and including weapons from the PAST that are more effective than weapons in the FUTURE, aka rocket hog, needler rifle.
I mean seriously? If they had that shit then, why didn't they use it in Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, or ODST? Really, Bungie? F***ing really?

Not gonna happen.
It's bungie. They're going to F*** this up. Again.


And again.
I've completely lost faith in their ability to create good games.
If I do get this(I have the beta because of ODST, which was epic fail), it'll be because my friends make me or because they actually /didn't/ F*** it up, which from what I've seen they already have.
They're doing what they did in halo wars and including weapons from the PAST that are more effective than weapons in the FUTURE, aka rocket hog, needler rifle.
I mean seriously? If they had that shit then, why didn't they use it in Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, or ODST? Really, Bungie? F***ing really?

You've just spewed the most retarded post on I-07, yet. Kudos, friend.

Without even addressing the whole top 90% of that garbage, I'll just talk about one thing: weapons.

What do you expect Bungie to do? "Ahkay err-body, here's a game we've been working three years on that has worse guns than all the other games you've played, and crappier vehicles, but fear not! For the story is pretty cool, and so're the graphics. Sooo, yup-yup; nothing really new at all, really. Just older shit with a different story. . . hope you enjoy it!

Love,
Bungie."

:l

I absolutely hate to say it, but I agree with Verb, on some of the points.

WHY on EARTH would you have better weaponry... in the past?

I could understand if they gave us weapons not available in the first game - the setting would explain the lack of the best weapons and vehicles. Even for the second and third one, you could say that the weapons were destroyed on Reach. But ALL of them? And the Covenant weapons, too? A little sketchy there, Bungie.

Plus, I want to know which idiot risked their job at Bungie to take pictures of the screen. Smart, man, really smart there.

Not gonna happen.
It's bungie. They're going to F*** this up. Again.


And again.
I've completely lost faith in their ability to create good games.
If I do get this(I have the beta because of ODST, which was epic fail), it'll be because my friends make me or because they actually /didn't/ F*** it up, which from what I've seen they already have.
They're doing what they did in halo wars and including weapons from the PAST that are more effective than weapons in the FUTURE, aka rocket hog, needler rifle.
I mean seriously? If they had that shit then, why didn't they use it in Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, or ODST? Really, Bungie? F***ing really?

You've just spewed the most retarded post on I-07, yet. Kudos, friend.

Without even addressing the whole top 90% of that garbage, I'll just talk about one thing: weapons.

What do you expect Bungie to do? "Ahkay err-body, here's a game we've been working three years on that has worse guns than all the other games you've played, and crappier vehicles, but fear not! For the story is pretty cool, and so're the graphics. Sooo, yup-yup; nothing really new at all, really. Just older shit with a different story. . . hope you enjoy it!

Love,
Bungie."

:l

I'm not saying they shouldn't include 'new' shit, I'm saying it should be older versions of regular stuff, or outdated weaponry, and even then it should still show up in the later games, because hell, they're actually there. Or, you know, instead of making the same exact FPS they've been making for years (and making it worse with each game), they could try something new, or add new aspects, or just do something original for once. Bungie is, in my opinion, the single worst game company.
Example?
Sure.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=20552894
That's a thread politely asking bungie to release a DLC for an enhanced forge editor. Everyone that voted yes is willing to pay at /least/ 800MS for it.
There are over 13,000 votes for yes and the topic hasn't left the 'Most Recent Topic' list ever since it was made.
Bungie has not responded to it once.
Not /once./
That was just my example, however. My /point/ is that Bungie apparently lacks the ability to create a storyline that makes sense in their games, and should really just make multiplayer stuff and leave the writing to people like Nylund.
In case you couldn't tell, there are so very many things I'm unhappy with concerning Bungie that I'm sort of just flailing around yelling out my issues, so if it doesn't make much sense you can ask.

: Hey Matt, why don't you make the Nation RP forums?

This post has been edited by Zetal on Nov 8 2009, 04:28 PM

Don't get me wrong, I agree with Zetal to a point with Bungie being the most sucky game company out there. >>

I mean, I'm beyond glad about this game coming out because it'll keep me busy once it does come out, good or bad (Considering nothing is worse than CoD: WaW to me so, it's bound to keep me entertained.). But really, Bungie is extremely pathetic. They have to rely on making a game based on a Halo story line that has already been released in book form. People have to realize this: Bungie CANNOT make a game outside of Halo because they lack the creativity. And they're not capable of listening to their members/customers/etc.

Anyway, onto the weapons discussion going on. Z, you have to realize that the weapons, while they couldn't have been all destroyed on Reach alone, could have been destroyed on every other planet that they were on. You really have to think about how many planets the Covenant glassed and how big of a hit the UNSC's taken by the time we get to the point in the Halo timeline where the games are based on. The UNSC also doesn't have a huge supply of weapons either at the time so it'd make a lot of sense to see some different human weapons that are different than the usual ones in Reach than any of the other games.

In terms of the Covenant weapons, I have no idea what's up with those. Maybe they were faulty? x'D

But really guys, don't turn this thread into a flame war. We can continue on with this discussion but don't go all "Rawr, rawr, rawr. My opinion is fact and you're wrong, wrong, wrong." Stay chill everyone.

Wow.

I am finding it funny, very funny in fact, that your are complaining about new weapons added that are new and improved versions, when in fact the only thing that looks anywhere near an upgrade so far would be the Needler Rifle, which is no surprise considering the I bet the Covenant have a lot of tech we never saw before. The battle rifle is a downgraded version, the rocket hog is a downgraded version (Yes, downgraded, you honestly think with a weapon that implements Gauss technology wouldn't replace something like a rocket launcher?), and also you need to remember that Reach was a ONI MILITARY BASE! You really think that they wouldn't have experimental weapons and equipment we have never seen before?

I don't think Bungie is the greatest, yet they are by no means the worse. Did you forget that Bungie also made Marathon and Myth? Two games that have won awards for being very good game series. They are not just based completely on Halo (Which, might I add, they have been trying to get out of and succeed in doing so.), even though it was Halo that set them apart fas being a great company. The entire Halo Trilogy has been a absolute success, even if they have been on a decline Campaign-wise since Halo 1. Saying they are the worse compared to the hundreds of developers out there is just silly.

Forge is a system that I admit has it's limitations, yet name how many games allow you to completely revamp levels like it does. Hell give me a list of console games that have a level editor, period. I would imagine the list would be quite short, Bungie didn't even have to include so be happy you have it in the first place. Although I do agree that a updated version of Forge for a low price or even free is completely within reasonable requests, something I hope to see soon, if not with Halo: Reach.

lolwut? I'm sorry, but you all do realize that the Reach plot line was developed BEFORE the game even came out right? They left it for Nylund to polish the Battle and Spartans up, turn it from the dust it was to a new a interesting shine if you get what I mean. Also you do know that Reach is a PLANET right? The book focused on a small piece of the surface of a planet possibly the size of Earth. That is like yelling at a developer for making a game based in WWII because there was book about the invasion of Normandy. Who said the game was based EXACTLY on the book? If I am wrong and someone from Bungie indeed said "We are making the game based on the book Fall of Reach", then please correct me.

[/Bungie Defense Rant]

Damn, half this post looks like I am raging, please take into consideration that I just wanted to voice my opinion, I didn't mean to rage rant. xD

This post has been edited by HDread_Ackbar on Nov 8 2009, 06:50 PM

Point taken, but I wasn't specifically referring just to Reach. I meant all the Halo games.
In defense or not, it's too early to argue over Reach specifics, though you do make a point about Human weapons on reach. That does make a bit of sense, (Though you said it was based off a book, yet I don't recall him mentioning spartan lasers or rocket hogs or needler rifles anywhere in there >>;;;)
As for console editors, there are very few, but the only reason bungie chose Halo 2 and 3 as console games was for the $, not for the players. That makes me sad.
As for this part: "The entire Halo Trilogy has been a absolute success, even if they have been on a decline Campaign-wise since Halo 1. Saying they are the worse compared to the hundreds of developers out there is just silly.", I didn't necessarily mean campaign, though the stories weren't brilliant and neither were any of the immersions. My point was that if you go play Halo 3 now, you're bound to encounter something makes no F***ing sense at all, yet if you play Halo 1, you'll find that if you shoot someone...hey, they die! With every game they made, it's like they found a lever that controlled 'random' and turned it up a little with every game.
Did I miss something?

Yes, I realize Bungie HAS made other games BEFORE Halo. But really, have you seen anything outside of Halo since it's been released? No. There's been Halo: CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, and now Halo: Reach. Anything else? Nope. As I said, I'm not trying to turn this into a flame war but Bungie still sucks. =/ Rather the storyline behind Reach was created before the games or not isn't the point. Bungie gave the basic, BASIC, basic outline to Nylund. He turned it into what it is now because they would have failed epically at it.
It's exactly as Zetal has said, their storylines have decreased like crazy since CE was released, Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST being the shortest campaigns I think I have ever seen for video games in a while. Yes, I realize ODST was a filler but that's besides the point. It was still lacking quite a bit. =|
As I said before, though, I'm still looking forward to Reach's release because I'm sick of explaining the full story to everyone I talk to. But Bungie isn't trying to get out of Halo; They're too effing greedy to get out of Halo.

Back to the storyline issue, though. I'm not saying the game is going to be exactly like the book either. However, I find it sad that they're deciding to release that NOW instead of right after the trilogy or even before the trilogy was finished. To me, personally, Bungie just seems overly desperate currently because there's too many other game companies to keep up with these days. >.>;;;