Title: Reid's arch rival...
LeeChrista - November 25, 2006 02:48 PM (GMT)
We keep hearing Matthew in interviews talk about this "arch rival" who is a little bit smarter, a little bit better looking and a little bit taller. Any thoughts on this? I'm really quite interested to see how this is going to pan out.
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I love this show! - November 26, 2006 03:04 AM (GMT)
I've read some article's where Matthew has mentioned that too but I don't know if that's really where they are going with future scripts.
Of course I've also read that Reid is going to go as crazy as his mother and the BAU will have to hunt him down. That would be horrible wouldn't it? Reid going to the dark side.....I hope not! I don't know if that was real either or just what Matthew wants them to do with his character.
LeeChrista - November 26, 2006 04:15 AM (GMT)
These are the kind of questions I plan on asking him for the fan site. I also noticed a little "twitching" out of him in the past 2 episodes which may hint at schizo and when he is asked whats wrong he dodges the question(JJ asked him)...
I love this show! - November 26, 2006 09:05 PM (GMT)
I never caught the "twitching" thing - you think that's where they are going with that?
LeeChrista - November 26, 2006 09:10 PM (GMT)
In a way I doubt it...I think he just wants them to go that way.
Reid's-fav-cheerleader - December 1, 2006 06:48 AM (GMT)
I don't think they would go that way..Reid is too much of a loved character to get rid of like that. It is also a common statistics that in families where there are geniuses there is a history of mental illness. My grandfather has anxiety my mom, my aunt, and my uncle are all bi-polar and on my dad's side my grandmother suffers from severe depression so when my mother was told that I was a "genius" she wasn't suprised. My mom thinks that it has to do with manic side of the disorder. Look at Alexander the Great, he was a perfect example of a man with bi-polar. On some days he seemed unconquerable, the manic days, but other times like when he killed Cleitus, one of his most trusted advisors, it made no rational sense. At times he was prone to violence and he was promicuous all signs to point to him being bi-polar. I think Reid may suffer from another disease but I don't think it's schizophrenia. Maybe perhaps anxiety, that wouldnt be suprising in his line of work.
huuudaaa - December 4, 2006 05:42 AM (GMT)
but it would be fun tho if reid turned all schizo. i love drama.
this reminds me of John Nash.
CriminalReid - December 4, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
They certainly have been hinting it, During Sex, Birth, Death and Fisher King Part 2 Reid talks a lot about being afriad of gettng schizophrenia and being afraid of his own mind.
Who is this arch rival and when do we get to see him/her?
You don't think he is referring to Paget Brewster, her character is pretty smart.
LeeChrista - December 4, 2006 06:43 PM (GMT)
No he says in an interview its an old classmate of his.
beaglebabes - December 4, 2006 07:39 PM (GMT)
I think Matthew would do a great job of have Reid start losing it. It would be interesting to see as long as he got well and could stay with the show. :)
cmaddict2 - December 4, 2006 08:15 PM (GMT)
I think Matthew could do a great job of acting out just about anything!! It's the writers I would be afraid of after Elle's storyline.
beaglebabes - December 4, 2006 08:26 PM (GMT)
I agree with you completely about the Elle leaving story. It wasn't done as well as they could have done it for sure. :)
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cmaddict2 - December 4, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
You do such a GREAT job with your website! How do you find all of those extras you post? I'm glad that you include your link with each post, because I check it often.
CriminalMind - December 4, 2006 08:44 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I for one, would love Reid to 'lose it' and/or become an UnSub, because 1) MGG would play it fantastically and 2) I've always liked the idea of one of the team turning 'bad'! :D For my own, selfish, reasons, I so want it to be Hotch! Gotta love a bad boy....... :P
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cmaddict2 - December 4, 2006 09:15 PM (GMT)
Unfortunately, I don't think Elle's storyline is done. That's why it's been left so open-ended. I think she eventually will be an unsub. I hope not, because I really liked her character, but I can see it.
I love this show! - December 5, 2006 01:13 AM (GMT)
Reid going crazy would be a really good storyline and I think MGG would play it great but I don't want to see it happen just because I don't want to lose his character! How much do you think it would hurt the show if he left? He's definitely one of the most popular...unless it was a situation where he is still on the show and is "cured" or something. I don't know.....I think it would change the character too much and it would never be the same. None of the others would ever be able to trust him again - it just wouldn't work.
Rabbit - December 5, 2006 02:20 AM (GMT)
You can be afraid of your own mind without being schizophrenic, psychopathic, etc. There's a type of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder that deals with that--similar to scrupulosity but about other things than religion--and people who suffer from this are actually upstanding, moral people who are highly unlikely to harm anyone. They just fear that they will.
Part of me thinks this could be what Reid would be suffering from. Anyway, I think it's what he should have; I am personally tired of OCD always being in a negative light on this show. It would be nice to have an example of a person with mental problems who is not actually dangerous, at least once, to balance things out.
CriminalMind - December 5, 2006 02:36 PM (GMT)
Yeah, mental problems are always displayed so negatively, which is why I like when CSI: Miami touched on one of their agents having OCD, as it was positive. Unfortunetly, they mentioned it in like 2 eps, then dropped it, which is a shame, because living with something like that, or even if its a minor problem, can really drain you, and it would be great if it was displayed more positivly.
Also, wlecome Rabbit! :lol:
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moshpitpenguin - December 10, 2006 04:53 PM (GMT)
:o Reid go crazy? ooOOOoooo! No. u-uh. I don't know NO in any other languages..-cough-
I think they should go with OCD. Or something like that.
And then he should be staying home or something, and saying that he's sick, but nobody beleives him, and he's really just afraid that it's getting worse and he may hurt somebody.. This could be a non-OCD storyline- and he eventually gets help, like medication and therapy or something.
Or Bi-polar. My friend's brother is bipolar, and we had to lock ourselves in her closet because he triesd to kick down her door and attck his dad because we wouldn't let him use the computer, but he's all okay now. I think Reid should do something like that, maybe..
Don't listen to our ramblings. (My friends here whispering in my ear about future plotlines..)
In answer to reid leaving. :-no
Listen to the smiley, writers. the smiley is wise.
S.S. - December 11, 2006 06:16 PM (GMT)
have been thinking on this..I dun like the twist o' Reid goj schizo n the bAU chasing him..its all too unreal..I, personally, love him the way he is..no changes wanted..
This arch rival..hmmmmm.....
Reid's-fav-cheerleader - December 14, 2006 05:30 AM (GMT)
Well Reid has a 10% chance of becoming like his mom. I personally think it's his knowledge that he is afraid of. I know how he feels. You know so much that all you wwant to do is release it to someone but geniuses are isolated at an early age and it stunts their social growth. I was lucky to get where I'm at and I still have trouble talking to kids my own age. I personally would much rathe rhave a conversation wih my physics teacher rather than my friend Laura, there is just the knowledge factor. Reid is more comfortable in a setting where is not an abnormality. I think Reid is slightly autistic but then almost everyone has some autistic tendency, it is such a broad spectrum. As for having a mental disorder I agree that it is put in a bad light. My grandfather can't admit he has anxiety because when he was a kid that was considered taboo. Nowadays it is not so taboo but it is still treated badly because we know so little.
Guest - February 15, 2007 05:17 AM (GMT)
Actually, I think it would be too easy for them just to turn Reid immediately to schizophrenic, and certainly not into an unsub. We're only in season two. This show carries a lot of weight and depth with room for true development and storylines to unfold.. The writers appear brilliant, the material smart and well-researched, and the actors and actresses are fantastic. Their talents need to be used to the fullest. Quickly diving into some overly sensational or "obvious" plotline would be a disappointment and do both the cast and writers injustice.
I believe he is going to battle with his fears of breaking down and becoming "weak". There has to be some significance to that flashback scene with his mother when she calls his father weak as he leaves. Reid makes a point to say he isn't weak, and his mother assures him he is not. I believe there is much more to that scene than just getting through the episode and not being broken. There is much more to built upon there.
Personally, with him pocketing the drugs from Tobias's body, I believe he will attempt to hide a developing drug addiction, soemhting that is very likely to induce hereditary schizophrenia. Also, there is so much the general audience does not understand about this particular disorder. Many falacies are thought to be part of it. In truth, real schizophrenia, when properly treated, isn't at all very exciting.
Tooks - February 18, 2007 12:33 AM (GMT)
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| We keep hearing Matthew in interviews talk about this "arch rival" who is a little bit smarter, a little bit better looking and a little bit taller. Any thoughts on this? I'm really quite interested to see how this is going to pan out. |
I'm actually kinda interested in this idea as well - it could prove rather humorous - I remember on Numbers when Charlie had an arch-rival and it proved rather amusing.
I mean, everyone has had that experience in which they meet/grow up with someone who's just a little bit better at the things they're good at...It could prove interesting to see Reid's version of that. It'll also be interesting to see what the others think of this arch-rival; for all we know they may consider this guy just a great big dork (and not in the endearing way that they view Ried) despite Reid's view of him as a rival.
Edited cause I quoted incorrectly.
Mt. Suz - February 20, 2007 01:41 PM (GMT)
Spoiler!!! (Thanks Tooks! :) )
I found the following on BuddyTV, under the Highlighted Articles, 2/13/2007...Spoiler Fix TV Session by Isabelle:
Criminal Minds: In episode 2:18, "Jones." Reid meets with Ethan, an attractive school friend who trained for the FBI with Reid but dropped out and became a musician. A New Orleans detective who was on the verge of solving a case dies in a hurricane.... :o
Tooks - February 20, 2007 03:47 PM (GMT)
ETA: This is slightly spoiler-ish
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I had a feeling it'd be in that episode we'd meet the rival - the phrase "keeping up with the Jones' had come to mind when I saw the title! :D -- I doubt they'd have Reid meet up with the arch-rival while still with a drug problem so maybe the drug issues will be cleared up quickly...I hope... :unsure:
Um, does that snippet qualify as a spoiler? Maybe there should be a bit of a warning? I don't want folks to get in trouble :(
CriminalMindsFan - February 20, 2007 10:15 PM (GMT)
Small Spoiler about episode 2:18 " Jones":
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Yeah, that would be really weird if they had the drug problem going on while they had Reid meeting his arch rival because that would put him at a disadvantage.
WinterRunnin - February 21, 2007 02:19 AM (GMT)
will somebody clear something up for me, i heard, not literally heard but you know what i mean, that they WILL be getting rid of MGG's character because MGG is going on to bigger and better things, but that doesn't sound right. JUST TO LET ALL OF YOU KNOW THIS IS JUST WHAT I HEARD (READ)!!!!!! it is not fact unless more than 2 people can prove it with facts. somebody please tell me it's not true!!!! i beg of you please tell me there wrong!!!!
I love this show! - February 21, 2007 02:23 AM (GMT)
I haven't heard that before....but what do I know? (I really, really hope that's not true!) That would be a BIG blow to the show...he's one of the most popular. I would be so sad! :(
danceprincess444 - February 21, 2007 02:23 AM (GMT)
Ok, HUGE Spoiler:
Don't say I didn't warn you:
Acctually, he will meet up with Ethan while still on drugs. I found a summary:
"A case involving a serial killer believed to be copying Jack the Ripper takes Gideon to New Orleans after three victims are found with their throats cut. Once thought to have been killed in Hurricane Katrina, the discovery of a fourth victim in the French Quarter confirms the murderer is still alive. All the evidence and files had been lost in the flood, so the only clue the team has is the word "Jones" that the lead detective wrote on the wall just before he drowned. Meanwhile, Reid meets up with an old rival as he continues to struggle with the aftermath of being held hostage. "
source:
http://www.tv.com/criminal-minds/jones/epi...p_list;title;17And tooks, I think you are right about the "keeping up with the jones" thing. They sure do love double meanings. lol.
Tooks - February 21, 2007 02:35 AM (GMT)
First: WinterRunnin, I haven't heard anything like that either - and, like I love this show! I really hope that's not the case as it'd be a huge blow to the show. :(
Second: Yay! I may be correct in my theory :D
Third: SPOILER!!!
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Oh, no - there's nothing worse than running into a rival while at one of your lowest points...poor Reid :(
WinterRunnin - February 21, 2007 02:39 AM (GMT)
you have all saved me, no joke, i was dieing just thinking about Reid leaving the show. now that i know how many people are able to say "i haven't heard it" helps thanks.
danceprincess444 - February 21, 2007 03:02 AM (GMT)
If he leaves I'll hunt him down.
problem solved. lol.
but no, I haven't herd that eaither. Geeze, I hope not. The show would pretty much Die after that. I mean, loosing 2 very popular characters in 2 seasons!?!? And Reid adds so much to the show. I don't think they could solve a case without him. He always knows somthing none of the others know that happenes to be the key. I mean geeze, He even solved the case in Revalations!
And yeah, I know it sucks.
He's had a really tough season. (I want to say year but I'm not sure this all takes place in one year. lol)
First the deal with his dad in Fisher king then leading into this...
LeeChrista - February 21, 2007 04:01 AM (GMT)
Umm. I certainly have NOT heard that Matthew may be leaving the cast, I think I would have heard this. Lets hope not!
Lee
Diane - February 21, 2007 04:38 AM (GMT)
I don't believe Matthew will leave Criminal Minds, and he doesn't seem like the type of individual to leave a show in order to go on to do "better things." There is nothing to even suggest it. I read in an interview, that he says he loves the cast and crew, and loves working with them.
So really, these rumors are crazy. It's better to hear it from the man himself.
I love this show! - February 21, 2007 12:47 PM (GMT)
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Umm. I certainly have NOT heard that Matthew may be leaving the cast, I think I would have heard this. Lets hope not!
Lee |
Oh good! I'm very happy to hear this from you of all people!
CriminalMindsFan - February 21, 2007 09:46 PM (GMT)
If Reid would leave a ton of people would stop watching the show and one of them would probably be me (I say that but I would probably still watch to see what happens).
Fractered Bliss - February 21, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
I saw that episode of Numb3rs with that guy (played by Colin Hanks) who was smarter then Charlie, it was so funny to watch. So i'm looking forward to seing this one, wonder what this Arch Rival is going to be like, can't wait to see that.
I've not read any of the spoilers, because i preffer to stay spoiler free.
livia - February 22, 2007 06:02 AM (GMT)
Matthew and Spencer both have enough on their plates right now, I think.
There is obviously no question that Gubler would be great, really, we've seen what he's done with a pirate. I just think adding schizophrenia to drugs to awesomness to arch rival will lead Criminal Minds down the horrible tv drama path. You know, the one where the show is AMAZING but then drama, upon drama, upon drama just makes the show sickening to watch?
I have faith in the lovely writers, so whatever they do I will except it. No matter what I tell myself when no one is listening.
(Matthew?!?!? Not on anymore?!?!? Phs...)
Guest - February 23, 2007 08:47 PM (GMT)
I'm thinking that Reid's rival might be the person J.J. starts dating...
They mentioned in TV Guide about how they were going to give her a relationship outside of the team, and Reid's rival would make it very interesting.
I could see Reid becoming even more jealous if J.J. falls for someone he used to know, and that gives him even more reason to turn to drugs. Just a thought, but it does make some sense...
Tooks - February 23, 2007 11:21 PM (GMT)
Really? Wow, how much lower can Reid's self-esteem and overall mental health get? :(