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 Carbon Emission Quotas, May need a better name...
Douria
Posted: Jan 16 2008, 10:28 AM


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Yeah, but the problem is that people who do a hell of alot of polluting NOW will get their allotted credits for free and then be able to sell them if they want.

Besides, if the carbon credits exist in any kind of free market, net pollution will never go down. You're just moving it around from poor nations to rich ones.
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SilentScope
Posted: Jan 16 2008, 10:38 AM


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Douria: Good point. Hm. Er. Going to have to have it be delayed until the start of Janurary 1st, just to avoid the 'allocated credits' problem. (Or, heh, start the first Carbon Credit allocation on Earth Day)

And, yeah, the Free Market quote is true (altough trading is not the only way to gain Carbon Credits, enviromental projects also work). But, the original goal of this resolution (which has since been proven to be stupid) was to provide political cover for any future reductions in Carbon Emissions, by having it boost the economies of all nations via the free trade of carbon credits. Even now, however, any future reduction in Carbon Emissions can use this Proposal to justify such a reduction, in that they can claim it "won't harm poor countries".
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SilentScope
Posted: Jan 19 2008, 08:00 AM


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QUOTE
Cateogry: Enviromental
AoE: All Business

<pretty preamble>

DEFINING a "Carbon Unit" as a certificate allowing for the use of one ton of fossil fuel for one year,

1.GRANTS the "UN Environmental Agency" the responsiblity for granting Carbon Units to all UN member states every year, starting from the date of the Resolution's approval, based on national and international laws.
(a)UNEA also has the responsibility of monitoring calculating data for the annual carbon emissions all nations within the United Nations, and making said list of carbon emissions accessible for the general public.

2. DECLARES that the supply of "Carbon Units" shall be decreased in accordance with national and international regulations on reductions of fossil fuels, and that the UNEA will grant all nations an amount of "Carbon Units" which is equal to how much fossil fuels the member state would legally be allowed to use under the regulations.
(a)For example, if international regulation state that a nation must decrease its use of fossil fuels by a total of 5%, then the UNEA grants that nation a number of Carbon Units equal to 95% of all fossil fuels it is currently using.
(b)If a nation wishes to use more Fossil Fuels beyond the Carbon Units that was already given to that nation, it must acquire Carbon Units from other countries. This means that while one nation produces more carbon emissions, another nation gives up its right to produce carbon emissions, meaning that there will be the same amount of carbon emissions being polluted in the environment that the regulations mandate.

3. ALLOWS all nations, organizations and individuals to earn more Carbon Units through the creation of "Enviromental Projects" after submitting an application to the UNEA,
(a)"Enviromental Projects" include, but are not limited to, reforestation projects carbon sequestration, and research projects that benieft the environment,
(b)The UNEA will review all applications and reward Carbon Units equal to, or less than, the impact of the Enviromental Project.

4. PROHIBITS nations, organizations, and individuals from buying or otherwise acquiring more Carbon Units beyond the limits imposed on by international and national law,

5. ALLOWS for the Carbon Units to be transferred, bartered, and sold freely between different countries, organizations, and individuals, and that there should be no regulations infringing on this right other than in Clause 4.

6. ASSERTS that all nations has an obligation to help protect the environment from carbon emissions.


Subject to revision, as always. I'm not exactly happy with 3b and may seek to change it though...
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Gruenberg
Posted: Jan 20 2008, 09:02 AM


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I think the definition is a little weird. I don't know much chemistry, but I would strongly bet different industrial processes yield different effects, and hence it might be better to define it in terms of product, not fodder: one of ton of carbon dioxide emitted. (I would also note that there are non-carbon emissions that need regulating, but let's keep it simple for now.)

More importantly, I still don't see how 2(b) can even pretend to be legal. FFRA says nations have to decrease their emissions by x%; not that they can buy their way out of that prerogative. While your approach arguably makes sense, previous legislation has imposed limits by nation. You can't simply ignore those limits.

In the following year, The Republic of UN Member Nation is required to decrease its emissions by at least 2%. Given it was granted 100x carbon units the previous year, this now means it only has 98x carbon units. Allowing UN Member Nation to buy anymore carbon units is either illegal (because exceeding 98x carbon units contradicts FFRA) or stupid (because, knowing this, no nation would make such a purchase).

If you are going to use the same national approach as previous legislation, the only room for a trading system is if you set a supply of carbon units below the current ceiling level, meaning nations can trade up a bit if they want.

You might consider, though, not taking such a national approach. After all, in many countries it'll be private firms that actually need the carbon units. They absolutely can trade carbon units; they still have to obey, and member nations enforce, rules on national emission levels, but that doesn't matter so long as TNCs are able to spread the sites of their emissions around.

An additional suggestion: you could allow the UNEA to purchase, using any excess funds or donations specified for that purpose, carbon units off the market to further promote research and development.

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6. ASSERTS that all nations has an obligation to help protect the environment from carbon emissions.

:rolleyes: Can it.

There's also a few grammar spots, but they can be fixed in the final draft.
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SilentScope
Posted: Jan 23 2008, 12:41 PM


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Thanks Gruen. Will hopefully fix up the grammar in the final draft.

New revision.

QUOTE
Cateogry: Enviromental
AoE: All Business

<pretty preamble>

DEFINING a "Carbon Unit" as a certificate allowing for the emission of one ton of ton of carbon dioxide for one year,

1.GRANTS the "UN Environmental Agency" the responsiblity for granting Carbon Units to all UN member states every year based on national and international laws, so that UN member states may give those Carbon Units to public and private firms that would need them.
(a)UNEA also has the responsibility of monitoring calculating data for the annual carbon emissions all nations within the United Nations, and making said list of carbon emissions accessible for the general public.

2. DECLARES that the supply of "Carbon Units" shall be decreased in accordance with national and international regulations on reductions of carbon dioxide emissions, and that the UNEA will grant all nations an amount of "Carbon Units" which is equal to how much Carbon Dioxide emissions the member state would legally be allowed to produce under the regulations.
(a)For example, if international regulation state that a nation must decrease its carbon dioxide emissions by a total of 5%, then the UNEA grants that nation a number of Carbon Units equal to 95% of all carbon dioxide emissions it is currently producing.

3. ALLOWS all nations, organizations and individuals to earn more Carbon Units through the creation of "Enviromental Projects" after submitting an application to the UNEA,
(a)"Enviromental Projects" include, but are not limited to, reforestation projects carbon sequestration, and research projects that benieft the environment,
(b)The UNEA will review all applications and reward Carbon Units equal to, or less than, the impact of the Enviromental Project.

4. PROHIBITS nations, organizations, and individuals from buying or otherwise acquiring more Carbon Units beyond the limits imposed on by international and national law,

5. ALLOWS for the Carbon Units to be transferred, bartered, and sold freely between different countries, organizations, and individuals, and that there should be no regulations infringing on this right other than in Clause 4.

6. STATES that UNEA would be allowed to purchase Carbon Units off the market, using any excess funds or donations specified for that purpose, in order to further promote research and development.
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The Evil Smurfs
Posted: Feb 5 2008, 01:56 AM


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Mmm. Nope. Someone beat you to it, and there's no way you can top this:

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Carbon Credits
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: Automobile Manufacturing
Proposed by: Saint Comanche

Description: no swapping carbon credits, just you have to look after what youve got?

Approvals: 8 (WZ Forums, Istrians, Psycotia Island, The hit men, The Wyvern Isle, New Hamilton, Jake and Elwood Blues, Rotherdom)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 96 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Feb 5 2008
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