hello agian akt.

[Zar'oc]

Helloa again akt man I know I haven't been on in for ever I'm sure I have been forgotten by most but for. Those who remember me WHAT'S UP. I am sure I have misst tons of stuff its late and my g1 is now my pc but I wanted to stop in and say hey real quick and see who may respond hope to rpg soon guys god I miss it

[Karnakarrhu]

Oh hey, I was hoping you'd come back someday. So under the storyline and plot section, basically 50 years have passed IC since the last time you were here and most of the main characters (including Valec) are dead.

I'm not sure where that leaves you. You could make a new character or continue using Zar'oc, even though he'd be pretty ancient now (considering he fought in the Great War, he could easily be pushing 100 by now), but given that he's Iridonian, he's probably tough enough to be fit.

So would you be doing? Interesting question I've been trying to puzzle in my mind for a while now. The Shadow Order was void of masters even during my time and it was hurting us. Now the Shadow Order barely exists since I lost that battle over Dantooine to Vindicis. So if you wanted to restore the Shadows, you'd have my blessings in doing so, with hope that my last stand helped redeem the reputation of the Shadows that was tarnished before.

Otherwise, you could have gotten pardoned by the Empire (amnesty for war crimes and such). Iridonia has gone Imperial, and right before the timeline jump, you and Diwan were about to go to Coruscant for Diwan to get her military titles and rank back. Remnant really needs some player characters (they basically have none right now). So I guess it's your choice whether to go hermit (Kashyyyk is a great world for that, if not your character's homeworld Iridonia), drifter, or decide to be a member of the Imperial Knights, if not the Lord Protector, if not the founder. It would make all the more sense if Diwan became Grand Admiral at one point (Arpad is the Grand Admiral of the Jedi's side now).

Oh, and Darth Ferus seems to think he's a master of Force Flame, though he ended up burning himself so bad that he has no flesh left. So I look forward to seeing who's the ultimate master of fire.

Edit: I forgot to mention, Azazel, Valec's new character (and as you can guess, the son of the Dark God) is currently next-in-line to King Merreck's throne on Dathomir, so maybe you want to make your way there.

Edit 2: Oh, and that reminds me, Ra'ne'main Danon, the daughter of the last Ra, has been running around looking for her father, whose last name is supposedly Danon. It doesn't seem like Zar'oc or Swift are the father, but with Swift dead, Zar'oc might her only hope of figuring out that little mystery.

Edit 3: I just realized that full-blooded Zabraks cannot grow facial hair, my bad. Sorry, apparently you won't be having a big white beard.

This post has been edited by Karnakarrhu on Apr 18 2010, 07:31 AM

[Perses]

hey man, i know we never rped together, but it has been a hwile..hope things have been good

[Rune]

Well well well.... If it isn't the guy who was my first master, then became my comrade when your master took me on then became my weird brother of sorts when the self-same master became my surrogate dad.... It was pretty strange actually.

LoL (you'll probably remember me as Silence... a lot has changed since then, obviously)

it's good to see you back here though, Zar... I look forward to rping with you again.

[Lucian Typhlosius]

Yes a truly welcomed return to you Zar'oc, you probably don't remember me since we rped in the same topic only once in the past (training in the echani arts under Valec and Cinaed) but I do hope to get the chance to rp with you again. Much has changed since your last encursion on the site but I am sure you will be able to play catch up like most returnees. Anyway, here is to a prosperous new future for your potential new character or grizzled veteran.

[Zar'oc]

I have to say I am shockd to get replys on this I. Thought id be forgotn thanks everyone. Karnakarrhu thanks for all the up dates on what has happend and what is going on I plan on rpging as zar'oc since he has been my guy since I started rpging here in 05 under the name draven who went through a great change... so I shall keep zar'oc eventhough I will be around 100 I shall think of something in my come back post lol...

Now karnakarrhu since most of the main people are dead I am like one of the last worriors from the great war idkwhat that does for me except make me feal super old lol.. as for the shadow I thank you for giving me your blessing to maby bring them back witch don't sound like to bad of an idea shinobi who began the order I think is accualy a very good frined of mine in real life and an old apprentace of mine so I've thought of maby taken over once it seemd they had no leader.. what if me and you both joind forces and brought the shadow back that could be interesting and fun. As for darth ferus maby we will have to have a little talk about who is a master of fire since I brought that in and used it many times and in very creative ways I must say...

As for valecs son maby I should meet him since valec is one. Of my best friends in real life maby I can meet the boy be his great great uncle or something maby ill make my way to him at some point if valec is active often here..

Now with this danon thing I never realy hookd up with anyone besides alyssa soooooo long ago so I don't think I am the fatherthough once agianmaby to have some fun I could be not to sure yet

And dang it I wanted to have a long dumbledor like beard that stinks lol....

[Zar'oc]

Sorry for the double post but I wanna be able to adress everyone who has welcomed me back so nicely it was truly a shock...

Perses thanks for the welcome it has been a very long wile things have been good thanks just haven't had a pc in a very long time but now my g1 cell phone acts as my pc lol.. hopefuly we get to rpg some time

Rune/silence I remember you how's it goin yes me and you had some strange things happen wile we were togeather I'm sure we will meet again soon some wear on this site..

Lucian thanks and I may not remember you but I do remember traning under those arts for a breif time I accualy train now in judo,muay thai, and teakwando so I will prob add that to zar'ocs skills hope we also get to rpg again.. I shall keep zar'oc and make him the grizzled vetran of so many wars,battles,fightsand much more from the past.. I am truly a man or zebrak who has seen and just about done it all

[Karnakarrhu]

I'm kind of surprised that you still manage to post with a phone cell, I could never do it without my desktop, even my laptop is slow and annoying. Oh, and just for reference, I'm Brotz, despite whatever my current character is named (my Brotz character is presumed dead, last seen held in carbonite storage by the Sith on-board the Malevolence).

Anyways, we've all had to make new character profiles, and considering that you haven't updated yours in a long-time, it's long overdue that eventually you'd have to rewrite yours. I'm sure you can think of all the major events of Zar'oc's long, long life to reference, but the parts that are really going to count are the last fifty years of his life. Let's just say that the admins are only letting characters with "a pretty damn impressive story as to how you were presevered" to return. So let me get on with answering all the little minor details.

As far as Alyssia, there is an Aerilyn Valerie Collins out of Alyssia by Christophe Collins. Sorry Zar'oc, I don't think you made the score.

Oh, and the beard....I found a site called the Zabrak HoloNet, quite a good resource. I made mention of the Zabrak Zur, and the possibility that Zabrak with a small human heritage might be capable of growing facial hair. So, don't abandon hope of your dumbledor beard.

Lastly, the martial arts, it seems heavily implied that K'thri is the Zabrak style (I blame myself for using Darkbrotherhood as a resource - they have nice Star Wars martial arts guides in pdf format), although it seems to be a dancy, flashy, acrobatic style, which contrasts Zar'oc's brutal, power-oriented style (yes, I've done my reading). So, that's your call.

Back to the main picture of bringing back Zar'oc is the question of what you want to do with him. I suggested the Imperials, since Diwan seemed to take interest in becoming Grand Admiral (although I cannot say whether that still stands). I'm not sure whether you want Zar'oc to have ultimately betrayed Valec, merely abandoned him, or stayed to fight with him until it became evident he was going to lose.

Still, I feel that your best bet is being founder of the Imperial Knights and Lord Protector, because that would help justify bringing a person of Zar'oc's power back in the fold. My idea is that Zar'oc wouldn't have had it in him to join the Jedi, the Shadows were wiped out and the Red Dawn closed off, and yet the Sith Covenant have him pissed off (especially after unsuccessfully attacking his homeworld). So, Zar'oc and his gray force-users (Valec's former followers, former Shadows, whatever floats your boat) pledge loyalty to the Empire and follow the Remnant. The Imperial Knights become the successors to the Shadows as the gray order of the Galaxy, to stop the new Sith from their mindless destruction by all means and act beyond the limits of the Jedi. I'm sure that Swift's reign as Grandmaster would have seen a small partnership between the Imperial Knights and the Jedi in that regard. What do you think?

[Zar'oc]

Yes well the g1 from t-mobile is a pretty sick phone it is my pc and works very well. Karnakarrhu I remember u as bratz and I must say I think ur gona be my new best frined in 2 post you have helpt me greatly so I thank you. I'm not gona lie it may take some time for me to re think zar'oc whole history especialy the past 50years so that may take time since. I'm not the best or most creative writer just askaround about that lol.

I don't realy care about the beard as long as I don't look like a ragidy old zabrak ill be ok

So you have done some reading on zar'oc yes he is a brutal blunt force kinda fighter but I may change that since I have 50yrs to cover up I kinda made zar'oc like me and he changed like me over the years if I can't incorparate my martial skill with him its no big deal realy but again thank your for the usefull info..

As for what to do I am unsure after valec was killd by vexas I took his sword and left and me and him never fought side by side again although I would rath still keep zar'oc as loyal to the man who brought him in and. Helpt mold him into the once sith lord and 2nd incommand he was..

As for your idea about being the founder of the imperial knights what are they and what do they do because that sounds not to bad I like your idea I am open to any and all ideas to help bring this old bastard back to the akt world even if I gota shake things up a bit and turn some heads..

[Karnakarrhu]

I mentioned Valec since about twenty years over the current point in the timeline, he made his last bid to reclaim his throne by attempting to destroy the allied Jedi-Mandalorian fleet with the Darkness. He failed, his ship was destroyed, and he was killed for what seems to be the last time. It seems heavily implied that the Remnant was at war with the Jedi at the exact same time, so maybe Zar'oc had something to do with that.

The Imperial Knights are essentially the protectors of the Imperial Remnant, which is a breakaway of the Galactic Alliance, which has dwindled down to what people call 'the Republic.' The Remnant's aim is to restore the Empire, namely for the presence of authoritarian military-state efficiency that doesn't exist in the current Republic (thus giving Zar'oc a reason to back them up, because I imagine he has more respect for the Imperial structure than the Republic and the Jedi). Now, this would mean that Zar'oc would be politically attached to the Imperials, but his only real superiors would be the Lord Regent or Emperor if one ever came into the fold.

Now granted the Lord Regent could declare war on the Galactic Alliance and the Jedi, but Zar'oc could simply forbid his knights from participating, exactly as Roan Fel did in EU during the Fel Empire's war against the Galactic Alliance. He could also ally the Remnant with the Sith, or which point Zar'oc could either leave and take his remaining loyalists with him, or assassinate the Lord Regent. It all comes down to who has the loyalties of the Remnant's two top commanders, the Grand General and the Grand Admiral. Lord Regent is only as powerful as the men that appoint him, who are supposed to be the Moffs, but go figure.

The Imperial Knights in EU do have uniform silver lightsabers and crimson-colored phrik cuirasses, but you and I know that we have rules of lightsaber color and don't allow less than exceptional RPers to simply get body armor like that, so outfitting the Knights becomes open for you to modify. They were gray Jedi, and they still considered themselves much closer to the Jedi than the Sith as "Imperial Jedi" or "martial Jedi", but I'm sure Zar'oc and his top knights could still keep a small arsenal of dark side powers to use with care. Ash posted the ranks of the Order in the Recruitment Center under limited positions, so those are set in place for you. The founding of the Knights is open, so you could have established them as early as during the Vindicis years during Vexas's Empire (since Zar'oc would have gotten amnesty at some point, I imagine). Overall they are kind of fresh, so aside from loyalty to the Remnant, you are free to elaborate and invent.

[Zar'oc]

So wile I re do zar'oc info you want me to slide all this into it not only am I a bit confused and the fact that it sound like I'm gona have to write a book to cover all of zar'ocs info includeing the past 50yrs sounds kind of crazy cuz reading all that I'm like that's a lot to involve zar'oc in everything some how.

And yea zar'oc has always been a sith until vexas took over after that he pretty much became an outcast and roamed around doing what ever and traning what ever apprentace I had at the time.
So you want me to creat the imperial knights and protect or work with the remnant.

And if war breaks out if I do the alliance thing I can just forbid my men to fight in that war agianst the alliance. As to joining up with thesith idk what kind of home comeing I would get from them all the sith now would have no idea who I am unless I'm in the history some how or something but that is an idea but I may just keep me and my men to my selfas like my own little order. In witch this is all a lot it seems if you would like to partner up that could be interesting and prob helpful for both of us in one way or another

As for arming. My knights I know about the sabers and armor I can think of something simple for the sabers and something deacent for the armor I'm not to knowladgeable on star wars armor I may have to read up on some things. Zar'oc never had armor just his hooded robe and his baggie pants and vest under it. If they are grey jedi that is fine because I think I've workd with them b4 in the past and may have had a few allies thatwere grey jedi I think that's wear I learnd my force teleportation skill.. and ya I can teach some of mytop men my. Force flame power and maby some other things.

So if I am to creat these guys how would I go about doing so and again I'm open for anyone includeing you who would like to join and be my partner in crime since I know ima be hella rusty lol

[Karnakarrhu]

I'm sorry for not being more clear about the Imperial Knights, but they already exist on the board, but have no back-story or elaboration: a fresh slate. I merely wanted to offer a suggestion of explaining your character's continued role in the Galaxy while explaining the Imperial Knight's formation as a killing two birds with one stone. So you wouldn't be "creating them" OOC, but IC, if that's understandable, explaining that Zar'oc is the historical reason behind their formation. All you'd have to do is apply to be Lord Protector, which is their "Grandmaster" or "Dark Lord" equivalent, if that wasn't clear before.

Anyways, I'm not sure if the admins will let you keep the teleportation skill, it was kind of an overpowered skill, but you do still have your fire (Convection as referenced on the wiki). As for the Sith, Perses and Yami are sons of Sylux and Adrian (both of whom were killed by their sons), and stories of Valec, Vindicis, and Vexas persist, I am sure that Zar'oc is very well-revered among the current Sith. As the last of the old Sith around, they likely see he's the legitimate Dark Lord even if he left the Order, and the only way for a Sith Lord to claim the title is to defeat Zar'oc. It's just like how the great boxing champions have always had to fight an old retired champion to gain respect, like J. Johnson had to fight Jeffries, and Marciano had to face Louis. Next to Keram Dezark, Zar'oc might be the only opponent that a Sith Lord will be able to prove himself against. They'll be after him.

It would be hard for me to make a force-user to accompany Zar'oc, but I could always make a high-ranking General or soldier of sorts that has a history with him.

This post has been edited by Karnakarrhu on Apr 20 2010, 04:00 PM

[Zar'oc]

Its ok maby I was just not reading it well enugh but again thanks for the info. So I gota apply for that possition and that's that or I gota make a back story cause that may be the easyest of my task so far lol.. and I got ya I wouldn't be creating them I would be. Like. Giving. Them life of sorts given them a story or history or something..

Well as long as I get to keep my fireim good I believe with the teleportation it is a bit of a god mod skill but I used it for fun not many fightss ince its hard to use I use to like just popn around a room but if I can't keep it that is fine I can find a diff skill to have..

Ahhh. Your a boxing man. Lol well thatmakes sense and be cool if I'm in the sith history some how or mentiond and remembered but if. The other sith wanna do the mma or boxing thing. In taken out an old champ to prove them selfs that's ok could make. Things interesting for me and make me just about trust no one but some times the old champ pulls out the upset..

And that would be interesting also kinda like have a person I came across and became allies with over the years or something if you wanna do that that be cool zar'oc wouldn't be alone at the momment plus ur being a huge help as it is could also be the case when I rp again.

[Rathryk]

Ah, Zar'oc. I highly doubt you know me, but I've got that charrie, Darth Ferus. He's a big Force Flame enthusiast, and seeing his ass get whupped by your fire abilities would be truly entertaining. However, I will of course try my best to make sure it would be the other way around.

It's good you're back, Zar'oc, and a meeting between my Sithie and your charrie would be most interesting.

[Zar'oc]

Ahhhhh I'm glad to see after I brought thr force flam abilty toakt others have tryd to use it ( your the only other person I know of who have done it).... I am interested in seeing your fire abilitys also I haveusedit in sooooooo many different ways... and yes a meeting between your dith andmy old sith would be interesting and maby fun maby a metural friend can be made in the process should make an interesting topic I'm sure a few people would like to see it... other then thatits nice to meet you